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alex@The Telenator wrote:
Ah, Alex — you have discovered my deep dark secret to my threads and posts. You see, I have a trained monkey who has been taught to sign into the Zynewave Forum whenever he passes by a PC (can use a Mac too, and actually prefers them for who knows what reason!). Anyhow, he locates any and every thread where I have posted my recent pearls of wisdom, then clicks into the thread repeatedly to UP the the hit counter, thus making it seem as if I’ve written something extremely wise and important. Neat or What? You know, this is how some popular cult figures got their start.
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@The Telenator wrote:
You Know, I noticed right after I did my civic duty as requested here the other day that I had chosen the exact same 3 features as you listed. Saw it right away after posting. Making that third and final pick was nearly impossible, if you know what I mean. So many needed features and such our tiny lists!
Yes, we discussed it lately. Solves many problems (time stretching (not real time), sample rate conversion (not on the fly), dithering ….).
At this point I must say something (and please, don’t let this affect anyone’s choice – all of these features are here because many people asked for them):
Time stretching – I think that we actually may be wrong about this one. It takes time and/or money to be implemented (if you want it to be good). And if it’s not good, what’s the point? I’m writing this because someone said:”Any simple algorithm would be fine.” That is simply not true.
Almost the same goes for dithering. I haven’t used dithering in any DAW for years – a good mastering limiter or wave editor is much better choice for that task imo. I’m not saying that native dither in any DAW must be bad or worse than some other, just offering some other and maybe more common solutions.
Have you ever asked yourselves why SF now also have iZotope MBIT+Dither and iZotope 64 bit SRC (and they already had their own, very decent bit depth and sample rate converters)? Why did they add Zplane elastique time stretch pro plugin when they’d already had time stretch?
And if one wants “any” algorithm, there’re free wave editors that can do the trick, and can do it good.
Anyways, the point here is that Frits has never implemented something of low quality in Podium, AFAIK, and now is for sure not the good time to start doing that.
What I think (and I may be wrong) is that some people are after something like, lets say, Propellerhead Reason/Recycle when they’re talking not only about loops, real time time stretching, but also on the fly sample rate conversion and even pattern step sequencer which, btw, can’t find it’s place in Podium imo.
Now, why am I writing this? While I can in this very moment list 20 + features that (I think) I need, I can easily see myself getting the job done with only three features I listed added.
This for sure doesn’t mean that all must have features, including time stretching, dithering …. shouldn’t be implemented at some point. That only means that Podium is very, very close to the point when it can be considered a serious DAW and as good as any other on the market. For those who have been sleeping for the last couple of years – when we’re talking DAWs, everything’s gone as far as it gets – there’s a standard set of features that every DAW must have, and that’s it (and most of those features that Podium misses are listed in OP – the rest what should be done are small fixes and improvements).
@The Telenator wrote:
Say, while I’m here I wanted to mention that we seem to have a legion of silent readers at this forum. I first noticed it perhaps 6 months ago. Nary a trace of them, never a post I’m guessing. They are the Watchers, TheyWhoShallNotPost. They Who Must Only Use the Podium Secretly Late in the Lonely Night. Only record is that they can drive up a hit meter on a new thread into the thousands in no time and with seemingly no effort. Scary!!!
Scary? Might be. Disappointing and unfair, I would say.
1030 views – 6 responses. I really don’t believe this!
@Watchers
I somehow believe there must be many people among you who know something about DAWs. So, please select three features from OP that you miss in Podium most, because you are Podium users which means that you know this software and can say what you miss in it. Even if you don’t plan to ever become a licensed user, someone else can benefit from your suggestions. If you miss only one or two, write that. If you’re a newb and don’t know what certain feature is, ask, and it’ll be explained.
Cheers, Alex