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ConquistadorA rather glowing mini review was given to Acousmod and his surround plugs in the latest edition of Soundonsound magazine.
I have an online subscription with them so I browsed through the latest articles a few days ago. Podium does not appear to have been given a mention though. I’ll have another look.
German FafianI have never seen anything about Podium anywhere! that makes me angry as I would have bought it a long time ago when I was needing an audio host 😡
We should make a group request to forums and mags to post articles and reviews about it 😉
Germ 😈
ConquistadorHi,
I could be wrong but I think Frits did not really want the exposure for Podium yet as he has not fully completed the Podium guide. He may be ready now though.
Also, I am sure Frits would not say no to someone donating a large sum to his marketing needs. It will cost money and a lot of it. As good as Tracktion is, Mackie can distribute it in the US and Europe and Tracktion 2 has had a very heavy marketing excercise behind it with single and double page spreads in most of the major magazines and CM magazine in particular using Tracktion for many of its tutorials in their past issues.
But even with all that exposure the sales of Tracktion no doubt will not touch the sales of Cubase or Sonar simply because of their marketing budget and reach talk less of Podium.
Project 5 version 2 will be demonstrated in over 80 cities over the next few months! See what I mean? 😉
Cubase and Sonar have also been around for about 5 – 10 years at least. Plenty of time to build a user base!
Tracktion has been around since 2002 November I think while Podium was only in existence on the Podium Master CPU 8) at the Frits residence before 2004!
These things really do take time, plenty of money, and a distributor who can get Podium on the shelves of major stores and available to buy from the likes of audiomidi.com for instance.
Frankly I don’t think Frits is too bothered by it all and is happy with the user base he has and the support from people like you and me.
I like things the way they are with the close contact and almost instant responses on the forum from Frits.
I guess it would be sad for Frits to never really enjoy a good financial return for his efforts but then again…I certainly do not want Zynware to be bought out and then we hear nothing for 6 – 9 months and the a new release comes out but eventually that may happen and it may be the only way to get Podium on the big stage.
I am more than happy to keep things the way they are. Frits may not have a price tag for interested distributors to meet. He may consider the control over content and the core support he has now, worth more then the big bucks that may be offered to him.
Podium is such a brilliant piece of work I think a distributor will come up with an offer sooner or later. I guess Frits will cross that bridge or not when he gets to it.
But it would indeed be nice to see a glowing 6 page review of Podium in Soundonsound Magazine. I think it will happen but when Frits is ready…maybe he is?
German FafianActually I was making more of a fun remark 😀
I am no one to say wether Fritz should advertise more or not. So far I have done the 2 things I can;
1-. bought the program and are learning to use it in order to recommend it to others.
2-. Placed a link to Zynewave.com in my web page (I´m not famous, but someone might catch that one up 😉 )
As for T2. I think they are failling to deliver up to their promises. T2 is only available in the USA so far. Non USA buyers have to buy over the net and pay excessive prices for shipping. Also the price of the T2 box in Europe is much higher than publicised by Mackie as retailers add their taxes and what not to the already marked up price ( up to 250$ in Spain when they finally get it).
Another thing against T2 ( I used to love Tracktion really. I hate all these things happening to such a nice program) is that many bugs are showing up in the new version. I am not so sure about this, but if you read the posts in the Tracktion forum that is wht it seems to me.
Marketing is not everything. Delivering what you promised.Is! 😀
Later;
Germ 😈
ConquistadorI could not agree more. Marketing is not everything. I certainly prefer to focus on quality and stability instead. Thats why I prefer things the way they are now.
Podium has the features I need. The developer is not tied down to a marketing deal that influences the timing and type of development he can do.
I think we agree. I only used Tracktion as an example as its the closest thing to Podium I can think of. Of course other options exist as well.
We both support Podium and will continue to do so no doubt! 🙂
ZynewaveThanks for your comments,
The incomplete guide is indeed what is holding me back from promoting Podium. Once it is done, I’ll probably start out by putting Podium on download.com, buy banner-advertisements on e.g. kvr, approach music magazines for reviews etc.
I have no plans at all of getting Podium into a box and onto shelves in stores. That may still be a huge market but I believe that online sale of software is the way to go. As a one-man company I certainly never will have the resources to market and sell Podium as a boxed product.
Frits
super_crunchyI agree completely – online sales are the way to go. I will always buy software online over boxed products, unless there is no online version. It’s cheaper, and you get the software as soon as you have downloaded it. GForce have just started doing online “direct download” sales which was a great move in the right direction IMO.
think outside the box! 😆
super_crunchyPS can anyone tell me exactly where in SOS eSub that the Acousmod reviews are? I searched for AcousMod and AcousModules and nothing came up in the SOS search engine…
Conquistador@super_crunchy wrote:
PS can anyone tell me exactly where in SOS eSub that the Acousmod reviews are? I searched for AcousMod and AcousModules and nothing came up in the SOS search engine…
Hi Super Crunchy.
You can find the information in the “from 32 bit – 64 bit” article under PC Notes. Scroll down for the mini review of Acousmodules creations. 😉
acousmodHi,
I’ve just seen this topic today…
I wonder what has been written in this article, but I don’t want to spend money only for this.
Does somebody have a copy of the article ?
Cheers.
Conquistador@acousmod wrote:
Hi,
I’ve just seen this topic today…
I wonder what has been written in this article, but I don’t want to spend money only for this.
Does somebody have a copy of the article ?
Cheers.
Hi Acousmod,
Not sure how this one slipped under your radar… 🙂
I would be happy to show you the article in full but I only have the electronic version and SOS seem a bit strict on the content…
“The contents of this article are subject to worldwide copyright protection and reproduction in whole or part, whether mechanical or electronic, is expressly forbidden without the prior written consent of the Publishers.”
Threre are probably other forum members who may post the full article here anyway…don’t know, but this is pretty much everything anyway…
Your mini reviews are about 5 paragraphs long. You feature in an article called From 32bit to 64bit in the June issue of SOS.. There are a couple of screen grabs as well of your creations.
A link is even included to your webiste in the article. Animasampler 3D, Joysynth, Joysampler, and Joymachine all get a mention.
Your spatial processor spatgrains 8 gets a mention as well. The reviewer went into a bit more detail on your plug ins as well. He clearly spent some time on your stie. 😉 The article was not just a few lines with a link to your site.
No mention of Podium though which suprised me as you do make your appreciation of Podium quite clear on your site. That actually was one of things that got me interested in Podium in the first place.
I thought what is this application that he is constantly comparing to Cubase and Nuendo? I was very curious. Now I know why. 🙂
I would have thought the June issue is probably still worth getting, just as a collectors item. It’s not every day a developer gets a mention in SOS mag especially a review as extremely positive as that one.
Of course SOSMag may very well be quite happy for you to add their comments to your site anyway I would have thought. A simple email to them should find that out. Up to you really, but it was a very positive mini review.
acousmodI would be happy to show you the article in full but I only have the electronic version and SOS seem a bit strict on the content…
Oh, I understand.
Anyway, thank you very much for your answer, I will try to contact SOSMag…
Concerning Podium, I hope too that there will be more articles on it in the future, as it is going to be one of the bests multitrack softwares, and for my plugs already the number one !
I think that at first glance, it is both attractive and intimidating.
Compared to others like Tracktion or Live which are more known and accessible for the beginner, its hierarchical structure and the mapping system complexify the workflow at the beginning, but shows it power after a while.
Each time that I show to people, in the particular usage of multichannel sound, what is now possible to do with it, they are amazed and nearly ready to throw away their Protools/Cubase ! But for those who then try the demo, they are stopped by the fact that they have often to make three or four time more actions to perform a similar result… or to deal with “not obvious behaviours”.
I remember when the first beta version was announced, that I had try it and only thought : well, one more…
I actually think that one reason of its relative confidential expansion is that its main purpose is not clear for people :
– it is not loop based
– it has a powerful MIDI sequencer and editors but most of them don’t work as “usual”
– its price lets think that it is accessible for beginners but its workflow is rather complex
– it makes automation or bounce in a way that is very different from others
– it is not a simple imitation of an analog recording setup, even if it shows a mixer
– it has one of the best support in the world but no marketing anounces
etc
Most people need a non ambiguous label for things instead of finding by themselves…
So far I have done the 2 things I can;
1-. bought the program and are learning to use it in order to recommend it to others.
2-. Placed a link to Zynewave.com in my web page
I agree with and share this statement. With time, using Podium will certainly be one of the best argument to make it appreciated.