Topic: Audio editor

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  • May 14, 2005 at 08:37 #501
    acousmod
    Participant

    Hi,

    I suppose that it is not complicated to do : a Save The Selection As function in the File menu of the Sound Editor.

    I know that you have plans for some enhancements in the Sound Editor (like applying destructive plugin effects), but this little option will be great, since there is actually no standalone multichannel sound editor in the market.
    I know that I can do partial bounces in the Arrange, but an export selection will be simpler et faster…

    Also, for a more future version, the possibility to make a vertical selection in the sound, that is to say select only one or several channels will be great :

    And also (bis) : the vertical zoom in the editor zooms the amplitude of the wave. It would be fine to have the option to zoom in the channels like for the tracks in the Arrangement.
    I suppose that it would be only usefull with multichannel waves…

    Thanks in advance

    May 15, 2005 at 14:44 #4673
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Also, for a more future version, the possibility to make a vertical selection in the sound, that is to say select only one or several channels will be great

    You can toggle the selection of each channel by clicking the channel header.

    the vertical zoom in the editor zooms the amplitude of the wave. It would be fine to have the option to zoom in the channels like for the tracks in the Arrangement. I suppose that it would be only usefull with multichannel waves…

    You can zoom in on an individual channel by using the zoom-y/zoom-xy tools and click-dragging in the y direction in the channel header.

    The ‘Save Selection As’ command is a good idea. You have previously requested a command for exporting channels in multiple mono files. Maybe the ‘save selection as’ should create mono files, or would it be better to have an additional ‘save selection as mono files’ command?

    May 16, 2005 at 07:58 #4682
    acousmod
    Participant

    You can toggle the selection of each channel by clicking the channel header

    Excellent ! (I might have found it myself…)

    You can zoom in on an individual channel by using the zoom-y/zoom-xy tools and click-dragging in the y direction in the channel header.

    Hmmm, I don’t find how to do it. When the XY Tool is on the channel header it become a simple arrow with no other function than toggle the channel.

    Maybe the ‘save selection as’ should create mono files, or would it be better to have an additional ‘save selection as mono files’ command?

    The second solution is definitely the better !
    The ‘create mono files’ is good for export for surround encoding of for next import in softwares that doesn’t support multichannel files, which is mostly when exporting a final bounce track.
    On the other hand, the ‘save selection as’ will be very useful for using Podium as a multichannel sound editor.
    It will be perfect if the save selection could save only the channels which are active / selected…
    Thanks !

    May 16, 2005 at 08:29 #4684
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    When the XY Tool is on the channel header it become a simple arrow with no other function than toggle the channel.

    You’re right, you have to use the Zoom Y tool (hold shift+ctrl). I’ll fix it so that the XY tool also can be used for this.

    May 16, 2005 at 09:14 #4686
    acousmod
    Participant

    You’re right, you have to use the Zoom Y tool (hold shift+ctrl). I’ll fix it so that the XY tool also can be used for this.

    OK for shift+control, but what do you think about a SIMPLE solution like in the Arrange window : change the height of a channel when the cursor is on the bar that separate the channels, like for the tracks (same purpose = same solution) ?

    Concerning the vertical zoom button, it will be more logical (in my opinion) if its behaviour will be the same as for the other windows : zoom of the channels instead of zoom of the amplitude (same tool = same effect).
    Perhaps that a key modifier would be fine, for the Sound Editor window AND for the Arrange too :
    – vertical zoom button = zoom of the tracks / channels
    – control + vertical zoom button = zoom of the amplitude of the audio sequence / audio channels
    ??

    May 16, 2005 at 13:42 #4689
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    change the height of a channel when the cursor is on the bar that separate the channels

    I’ll put that on the list.

    Concerning the vertical zoom button, it will be more logical (in my opinion) if its behaviour will be the same as for the other windows : zoom of the channels instead of zoom of the amplitude

    That was my initial intention, but the problem is that to allow both an amplitude zoom and a channel height zoom similar to the tracks in the arrangement editor, then there would have to be two vertical sliders. I could not find a good way to implement this, so I decided on the restriction that all channels are always visible in the sound editor. That way I could get rid of the channel zoom slider. I then implemented the ‘relative’ zoom of each channel to allow that a single channel could be zoomed out for detail editing.

    May 17, 2005 at 07:49 #4693
    acousmod
    Participant

    then there would have to be two vertical sliders

    It’s the way of Steinberg’s Cubase / Nuendo, but it is not a reference…
    And what about using the control key (or using the right button) for controling the vertical zoom / amplitude zoom ?

    I then implemented the ‘relative’ zoom of each channel to allow that a single channel could be zoomed out for detail editing

    which is a great function !

    I think that this little discussion has not much interest in most cases because the vertical zoom need appears mainly with multichannel files.
    But an amplitude zooming function in the Arrange will be useful for everybody (I suppose so) ?

    May 17, 2005 at 07:58 #4694
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    And what about using the control key (or using the right button) for controling the vertical zoom / amplitude zoom ?

    I think there would still need to be the two sliders to illustrate the two different zoom levels.

    May 17, 2005 at 18:50 #4696
    acousmod
    Participant

    I think there would still need to be the two sliders to illustrate the two different zoom levels.

    Hmmmm, not sure, since the horizontal zoom button actually doesn’t reflect the zoom value ?
    But yes, two sliders would be nice, and personnaly I would like that the horizontal zoom slider will have the same behaviour as the vertical one !
    Details, details…

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