Topic: Bounce crash and stuck plugin

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  • #1624
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    Hello again! I’ve not used podium in a little while and decided to use it to compose a short to be used in a national television commercial for a major car company. I’m very impressed with 1.99

    I’ve been having an issue with ioplong splonki not clearing buffers when playback is stopped. It just continues to ‘go’. I think podium needs to send blank buffers for it to quit.

    Also, when rendering this project it will go all the way to about 99.9%, then the program freezes. It will not render 🙁

    What information can I offer to help get the problem fixed?

    Also, can I get my nickname changed on the forum?

    Thanks!

    #12563
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Also, when rendering this project it will go all the way to about 99.9%, then the program freezes. It will not render

    This is probably related to your first observation that splonki behaves unexpectedly when stopped. You can try to do a realtime bounce instead of offline rendering.

    can I get my nickname changed on the forum?

    You can change it in your profile (link at top of forum page).

    #12564
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    I’ll try that tomorrow.

    I am also seeing strange engine freezes. Hitting the play button does nothing, but the engine still runs ‘as normal’. Turning the engine on and off fixes it.

    Is there a reason podium doesn’t send blank buffers to plugins when playback stops? It seems to cause problems with a few plugins that have internal buffer sequencers.

    #12570
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @Robert Randolph wrote:

    I am also seeing strange engine freezes. Hitting the play button does nothing, but the engine still runs ‘as normal’. Turning the engine on and off fixes it.

    I hope that is only when you’re using splonki or other problematic plugins.

    Is there a reason podium doesn’t send blank buffers to plugins when playback stops? It seems to cause problems with a few plugins that have internal buffer sequencers.

    Podium does send blank buffers when playback is stopped. Only when plugins are bypassed/muted will the processing not be called. I’m guessing the problem is how the plugins respond to transport state changes.

    #12572
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    @Robert Randolph wrote:

    I am also seeing strange engine freezes. Hitting the play button does nothing, but the engine still runs ‘as normal’. Turning the engine on and off fixes it.

    I hope that is only when you’re using splonki or other problematic plugins.

    Without splonki I still get the problem occasionally.

    My system is very finely tuned and other hosts I use daily (sawstudio and protools) do not have such issues.

    I’ve not narrowed it down yet. It seems to be oddly random.

    Is there a reason podium doesn’t send blank buffers to plugins when playback stops? It seems to cause problems with a few plugins that have internal buffer sequencers.

    Podium does send blank buffers when playback is stopped. Only when plugins are bypassed/muted will the processing not be called. I’m guessing the problem is how the plugins respond to transport state changes.

    It’s possible I guess.. ❓ Splonki does not cause such issues in other hosts that I’ve seen though

    #12590
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    Hmmm

    How to do a realtime bounce in podium? I don’t see any way other than to do a loopback.

    #12592
    sam c
    Participant

    instead of hitting control B just hit record on the track (bounce track) and transport bar, hit play and you get a realtime bounce.

    Robert from SAW? what brought you to podium?

    #12593
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    @sam c wrote:

    instead of hitting control B just hit record on the track (bounce track) and transport bar, hit play and you get a realtime bounce.

    Robert from SAW? what brought you to podium?

    Hi sam 😀 It is me… I’ve been using podium for a while. I use it in tandem with saw, and I still use saw/sac for all my professional work.

    I tried the recording to a bounce track, and nothing records. I figured it was the most obvious solution but when it didn’t work I was rather confused

    #12594
    sam c
    Participant

    i justed tested it and here is how i did it.

    create a group bounce above the existing track. arm bounce track by clicking record and bounce. now arm transport and hit play. my group track records the existing track. i notice i left out click the B on the bounce track the first time. otherwise it should work.

    well that is cool you use podium. i really like it myself. i have a number of recording programs still but podium has become my fulltime software.

    good luck, i hope it bounces this time!

    #12595
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    Thank’s sam, I’ll give it a try.

    I’ve been using podium more and more… but sawstudio still is light years ahead in audio editing and audio handling, which is where the $$ comes from 😀

    It is nice to be able to have 2 really well written programs to use. Only so many years ago the choices were pretty slim and depressing.

    #12597
    sam c
    Participant

    now as a hobbyist i don’t see a major difference in editing. i actually think podium is significantly easier to edit with.

    not sure what difference you mean by audio handling. again, as a hobbyist i don’t realize a difference. neither saw or podium gets pushed too hard when i am usually at 30 tracks or less.

    i think podium is far easier to use than SAW. reaper, which i rarely use but like to watch, is also so much easier to use….for me. i always struggled with saw’s inability to incorporate simple functions like file path, etc.

    SAW made simple thinks difficult for a home user like myself. however, bob created quite a platform. but like you said, the choices are getting more plentiful and people like Justin and Frits have a more universal idea for pricing!

    i’m curious as to your explanations of the editing and handling of audio differences, just for the sake of cusiosity.

    #12599
    Robert Randolph
    Participant

    I can edit significantly faster in saw. When handling edits across, and between 50+ tracks, along with adjusting large arrangement portions and adjusting 100s of crossfades in a single session… podium would take weeks. Many of the projects I work on every day are at least 40 tracks or more with hundreds of regions, thousands of automation entries and hundreds of crossfades… let alone everything on various layers!

    On a track per track basis, you can move just about as quick. It’s as the projects become larger and more involved that sawstudio becomes easier and quicker. Saw also maintains an amazingly responsive interface under extensive load… and that load is reached later as well.

    For small projects I’d rather use podium honestly… it is more ‘fun’ to use, and you can figure something out easier. As the project size grows, sawstudio is more stable, responsive and has more powerful editing options… you just have to not be afraid to reference/memorize the manual 😀

    Though in podium, the tool-based interface can cause some slow downs that simply aren’t present in a keyboard based interface. I’m ‘used’ to it having used protools for a good while, but it is still less efficient.

    As for reaper… bleh. I’ve tried it with every minor update (.x) and I’ve never liked it. It’s far too generic for my tastes, and the userbase seems to be… ugh. 👿

    #12600
    sam c
    Participant

    @Robert Randolph wrote:

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    reaper… the userbase seems to be… ugh. 👿

    ha! that is a reason to stay away in and of itself!!

    what you say about project size makes sense.

    oh yeah, podium is certainly one of the coolest UI’s too!!

    hope the real time bounce works out.

    take care Robert…..

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