Topic: Bugged Project for Frits

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  • #617
    stu
    Participant

    HI Frits,
    Ive finaly had a chance to transfer that project file from my pc to this pc. Could you give me instrucions on how to send it to you in an email or attach to an email or what ever it is that is done ( I don’t know?).

    Also, you know I said I am an art student, well Ive been designing an advertisment for Podium for one of My course projects (hope this is O.k with You?). Its just kind of a poster or page in a magazine, Ive been using it for My background in Podium (project browser window), Ill send You a copy to have a look at πŸ˜‰ . Non of this is official Its only an imaginary poster or mag page πŸ˜‰ .

    BUGS

    1) Problem with synth 1 (Daichi). When storeing libary presets within a project, the name of the patch that is in bank 0, and position 0 within that bank is displayed and not the one you want to store. It is displayed in the presets section in Podium.

    2) When I go to record a midi note sequence to an audio track I try to get a better level first, when I do this there is always what sounds like a 1/16 delay on the material I want to record.

    Speak to You soon

    Stu

    #5228
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Hi Stu,

    If you’re using outlook or outlook express, open a ‘new message’ and select ‘File Attachment’ in the Insert menu. Then locate the file. After this the email should show a line in the header with the file information. You can also just locate the project file in a file explorer and drag and drop the file onto the new message window.

    My email address is listed on the contact page.

    #5230
    stu
    Participant

    Nice one Frits there on there way. Let me know what you think of the design, its not quite finnished yet, It still needs to be MASTERD πŸ˜‰ .

    Also do You think you could make it accesable to all the other members on the site. Im not sure how this is done but if it Involves people downloading it from this pc I can’t do it.

    #5231
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    I haven’t received any email from you yet. Are you sure they were sent ok?

    #5235
    stu
    Participant

    Hi Frits,
    sorry about that I don’t know whats gone on there πŸ˜• , Ive sent another just now let me know if it reaches you.

    #5240
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Yes, the mail arrived. I’ll take a look at your project file later on. I’ve uploaded your artwork to zynewave.com:

    http://www.zynewave.com/userfiles/stu/PodiumPoster.jpg

    #5250
    stu
    Participant

    Nice one πŸ™‚ .

    #5311
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Hi stu,

    Sorry for the late reply. I wanted to get the latest multiprocessing release done before looking into other things.

    1) Problem with synth 1 (Daichi). When storeing libary presets within a project, the name of the patch that is in bank 0, and position 0 within that bank is displayed and not the one you want to store. It is displayed in the presets section in Podium.

    I did some tests with Synth1. If I select a preset in Synth1 and then use the ‘New’ button, I get a library preset with the proper name. However, I found a bug that would make a previously assigned library preset adopt the name of the new preset. Maybe this is the bug you observed. Fix will be in 1.39.

    2) When I go to record a midi note sequence to an audio track I try to get a better level first, when I do this there is always what sounds like a 1/16 delay on the material I want to record.

    I looked at your project file, and it seems ok. When you say you record a note sequence to an audio track, do you mean bounce-record? Is the delay appearing in the recorded audio track?

    #5325
    stu
    Participant

    Sorry for the late reply. I wanted to get the latest multiprocessing release done before looking into other things. ❗ (sorry Frits I have’nt quite got the hang of these quote thingies yet, you’ll just have to distinguish between me and you yourself).

    Will this release support Pentium Hyper Threading where one processor acts like two.

    I think Your right about the synth 1 problem, thanks for fixing it I don’t know where I would be without synth 1.

    What it was with recording was, when I pressed the R for record on the Midi track I wanted to record, and the R for record on the mix in left+right track I wanted to record to, I would then just press play (not with record on the transport bar on) Just to see how much of the meter (the track level meter on mix in left+right) was filled so I could boost it if it needed more output from the Midi channel. As soon as I pressed play to monitor the input to mix in left+right I could hear about a 1/16 delay.

    do you mean bounce-record? No just normal record.

    Is the delay appearing in the recorded audio track? Yes, but you can hear this delay before youve even recorded, it is aparent when monitoring the input to the track you want to record to. Someone has mentioned something about using a very small asio buffer to cure this problem, Ive done this and it works, the delay goes but there are lots of drop outs and clicks for obvious reasons.

    Also just one more question, hows the progress with the karma fx synth going, have you sorted the problem with the dll out yet ❓ . Youve probably been to bussy with the dual processing thing havent you, oh well never mind I gues I just have to wait to use this little beauty.

    Oh yeah I was in a bit of a day dream the of day just stairing at my screen in a trance like state, when I noticed that I missed out the e in translateing on that Podium poster I designed 😯 , HOW EMBARRASING 😳 😳 :oops:. Never mind, as I said it still needs to be masterd πŸ˜† .

    Anyway til next time Frits

    #5327
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Will this release support Pentium Hyper Threading where one processor acts like two.

    Yes. This is available in the latest 1.38 release.

    What it was with recording was, when I pressed the R for record on the Midi track I wanted to record, and the R for record on the mix in left+right track I wanted to record to…

    So you are trying to record the audio output of an external synth? I thought you were trying to bounce record a synth plugin. The delay you hear are due to the audio driver latency, as you already have noticed. Podium can compensate for the latency during playback, but it requires that the mapping on the MIDI track is associated with the mapping on the audio track. You are probably using pure audio input mappings. First I’ll recommend that you read the ‘Devices’ chapter in the guide. It tries to explain how external hardware mappings work.

    Also just one more question, hows the progress with the karma fx synth going, have you sorted the problem with the dll out yet?

    Yes. 1.38 has a fix for the blank menus. I’ve since discovered another problem with Karma where the buttons in some of the Podium dialogs goes blank. As this is not a critical error, it’s going to take a while before it is fixed. I’m in the process of removing the use of the shared system dll file that is causing these conflicts.

    #5347
    stu
    Participant

    So you are trying to record the audio output of an external synth?

    No I’m just recording an instance of synth 1. When I do this I don’t press the b for bounce on any track I just press the r on the one I want to record and the r on the one that it will be recorded to. Sorry Frits this is all I can say, could it be the way that I have got my sound card set, I doubt it because I have’nt changed the setting for ages, but if you point out what it could be I’ll just double check to make sure.

    Should I expect a big difference due to this dual processor development.

    #5348
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    On the track where you are recording the Synth1 audio output, is that assigned with an audio input mapping?

    Should I expect a big difference due to this dual processor development.

    If you’re using a hyperthreading CPU, then the difference will not be that big. To verify that your machine is multiprocessing capable, open the preferences dialog in Podium, and check that the ‘enable plugin multiprocessing’ option on the audio page is selected.

    #5350
    stu
    Participant

    Yes the mapping is an audio input mapping named MIX IN LEFT+RIGHT.
    Its the one I always use, Ive successfully recorded things in Podium before, I can’t understand why this is happening πŸ˜• .

    #5352
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Yes the mapping is an audio input mapping named MIX IN LEFT+RIGHT

    I’m guessing that this input is a loopback of the soundcard output. My Yamaha SW1K soundcard has a similar feature. The problem with this kind of input is that it will record everything that the soundcard is playing, so you’ll have to solo the synth1 track during recording. Another drawback is that depending on the soundcard driver, you will get at least one buffer delay from the soundcard output to the recorded input. Podium cannot compensate for this. If you want to record your synth1 exactly as it is playing ‘live’, you need to use bounce-recording.

    #5353
    Dandruff
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Podium cannot compensate for this. If you want to record your synth1 exactly as it is playing ‘live’, you need to use bounce-recording.

    can you implement a manual “record-offset/latency” option? -xxxxxx samples to + xxxxxx samples? cubase sx for example has this in the asio-preferences.

    my rme hdsp9632 card for example needs -90 samples correction for digital internal loopback recording …

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