Topic: can’t get podium to record controllers !

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  • #916
    abducted
    Participant

    hello, i’m new to podium and I really like this sequencer.
    A few days ago, I got it recording controllers (pan, volume, etc)
    from my evolution uc33e. This was really exciting. But I can’ t do that anymore ! I haven’t change the setting, nor the midi filter. It will record notes OK but no controllers. When I turn a knob, I see that the data is received by podium. But it won’t record anything except notes.
    THis drives me MAD. It SHOULD record controllers like it did before !
    Please help me… thanks

    #7406
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Hi,

    A few days ago, I got it recording controllers (pan, volume, etc)
    from my evolution uc33e. This was really exciting. But I can’ t do that anymore

    Do you have the problem with the exact same project and instrument track that was working before? Are you controlling a plugin instrument or a hardware synth? Does the control changes you send from your controller actually change the sound in the instrument, in other words; is the problem only recording the automation?

    To be able to record parameters, the device you are controlling with your MIDI controller must be configured with the proper parameters. If you select your instrument track and open the parameter panel in the track inspector, you should find the list of supported parameters here. If you are controlling a plugin, then some plugins handle the conversion from MIDI CC to VST parameters internally, in which case the MIDI parameters don’t have to be present in the Podium parameter list.

    If you cannot find the problem, you could email me your project file.

    #7409
    abducted
    Participant

    thanks for the quick reply.
    I think I found what the problem is.
    Everything started to go wrong with the controllers
    when I deleted the device called “generic gm instruments”.
    I thought I didn’t need it but when I re-opened an older
    project containing this device, I could record controllers again.
    In fact, I’m not using any plugins, I am just using a hardware
    synth : a novation nova (and a evolution uc33e midi controller
    to control some parameters of the nova).
    I found that when I move some knobs on the nova, only those
    that match gm controllers works, such as volume, chorus, reverb…
    So I guess I need a specific device definition that will recognize all
    the nova controllers ? But I have no idea how to create this.
    I have the nova manual that describes all the controllers including
    nrpn but how can I get them into podium ? I’m no midi expert at all,
    I just know the basic notes and control stuff but nrpn seem really difficult
    to understand. Is there someone with a nova out there who could help me ? Thanks

    #7410
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Ideally you would find a nova definition file in the Podium library:

    http://www.zynewave.com/wiki/doku.php?id=definitions:index

    But there is no definition file for the nova in the library yet. The next best thing is to find a cubase patch script for the nova. Googling for “novation nova patch script” I found a script file on this site:

    http://www.deepsound.net/pc/supernova/supernova.html

    Importing the script file will give you a correct preset list for your nova, but the script file does not contain parameter definitions. Podium will however create a set of default control change parameters, which is more extensive than the set of controllers you got when importing the GM definiton file. I’m guessing that most of the Nova parameters can be controlled with single control change messages, so that should get you started. Setting up NRPN parameters can be quite tedious and requires some knowledge of how MIDI works.

    #7412
    abducted
    Participant

    ok , thanks for the links. I guess what I’ll have to do is make a nova definition file myself… or wait for someone to make it.
    You know what would be great ? A device difinition wizard.
    Just turn a knob on the device, and podium would automatically learn
    what controller it is (even NRPN) and then the user would just have to give a name to this controller and continue for every knob of the device….

    #7413
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Just turn a knob on the device, and podium would automatically learn
    what controller it is (even NRPN) and then the user would just have to give a name to this controller and continue for every knob of the device

    A ‘MIDI learn’ functionality in the track inspector parameter panel is on the plan.

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