Topic: CPU & CPU usage meter: Pretty weird. (Solved)

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  • #1836
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    I noticed that CPU meter is very weird:
    – Different values that task manager (aprox twice its value)
    – When multicore processing is enabled it’s less CPU expensive…

    See attached pictures

    Best regards

    #14490
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    I forgot say that when the meter reach 100% the output is muted (but windows task manager hardly reaches 50% 😯 ) and, although you press STOP the meter doesn’t descend

    Best regards

    EDIT: This has been tested with Gladiator2 and Sylenth1. It seems that Podium doubles the normal CPU usage.

    #14491
    bfloyd6969
    Participant

    @LiquidProj3ct wrote:

    I forgot say that when the meter reach 100% the output is muted (but windows task manager hardly reaches 50% 😯 ) and, although you press STOP the meter doesn’t descend

    Best regards

    EDIT: This has been tested with Gladiator2 and Sylenth1. It seems that Podium doubles the normal CPU usage.

    I just started using Podium and I was going to post a thread about this but I’ll just tag onto yours. I noticed that Podium is using about twice the cpu as my other DAW’s. I did a similarity test whereas I had the same synth, drum synth, and audio track with the same effects applied. The other two apps were both reading 10% cpu load and Podium was reading 20% cpu load. I was going to ask if there are some options that can be turned off in or out of Podium that might be causing the higher cpu load. I really like Podium and want to make it my main DAW but my computer sure isn’t the fastest of them all. Still, I would think that the cpu load should be closer to the other two DAW’s.

    #14493
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    Yes, same here. Podium is using about 2x CPU or more that Reaper/Orion with same settings, but task manager doesn’t reach 50% of CPU usage (when it reach 50%, Podium CPU Meter is at 100% and it mutes it output).

    I’m on a intel dual core.

    #14494
    Conquistador
    Participant

    Hi guys…


    @LiquidProj3ct

    There was an interesting discussion about CPU usage in Podium here. (CPU spikes) It might help.

    Why Podium is using less CPU with Mulitprocessing disabled??? Don’t know. Maybe some of your plugins respond better or are coded for single processor usage?

    I guess Frits would know what is wrong here or at least know how to troubleshoot it.

    @bfloyd6969 wrote:

    I just started using Podium and I was going to post a thread about this but I’ll just tag onto yours. I noticed that Podium is using about twice the cpu as my other DAW’s.

    Have a look at this thread (Dual-core Multiprocessing question). Might shed some light on Podiums CPU usage

    #14495
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    Thx Conquistador I’m gonna read it.

    However I can play 7 Gladiator tracks (4 voices chords each) until CPU overload (and I get audio glitches) in Reaper, 6 Gladiator tracks in Orion, and 3 in Podium.

    Similar results with Sylenth1.

    #14497
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @LiquidProj3ct wrote:

    Thx Conquistador I’m gonna read it.

    However I can play 7 Gladiator tracks (4 voices chords each) until CPU overload (and I get audio glitches) in Reaper, 6 Gladiator tracks in Orion, and 3 in Podium.

    Similar results with Sylenth1.

    Strange results. Not sure why that is happenining.

    Frits?

    #14498
    DFusion
    Participant

    @LiquidProj3ct wrote:

    I noticed that CPU meter is very weird:
    – Different values that task manager (aprox twice its value)
    – When multicore processing is enabled it’s less CPU expensive…

    See attached pictures

    Best regards

    This is because the max is 50% on each core so when you disable multicore it shows about half of what it does with it enabled 😉

    So when multicore is enabled it counts the cpu cycles from 0 to 100% and with it is disabled it counts from 0 to 50%

    #14500
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @DFusion wrote:

    This is because the max is 50% on each core so when you disable multicore it shows about half of what it does with it enabled

    So when multicore is enabled it counts the cpu cycles from 0 to 100% and with it is disabled it counts from 0 to 50%

    How strange is that? Sounds backward.

    Not saying you do not know what you are talking about DFusion 🙂 but I am just trying to wrap my head around this.

    Are you saying Windows counts from 0 to 100% for multiple processors and 0-50% for a single processor? ❓

    I would have thought it should be 0-100% for single or Multiprocessor sytems.

    Or do you mean Podium?

    #14501
    DFusion
    Participant

    Let me explain 🙂
    If you have a single core it counts from 0 to 100%

    Dual cores have a max of 50% on each core and Quad has 25% on Each core.

    So if you use a program on a dual core setup and you disable Multithreading it only uses one core which maxes out at 50% and the other core works for background tasks outside of the program that is used.

    So to sum it up:

    Single core = 100%
    Dual Core = 50+50 = 100%
    Quad Core = 25+25+25+25 = 100%

    So on a Dual core 50% is 100% on one core.

    😀

    #14502
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    Not sure 😳

    This is Reaper working with 7 Gladiator2 tracks without glitches (where Podium only can load 3 of those same tracks). Look at CPU usage.

    #14504
    DFusion
    Participant

    Hmm. that is weird.

    To me it looks like you have Multithreading enabled in Reaper but not in Podium.

    Btw. where have you got that cool dragon background?

    #14505
    bfloyd6969
    Participant

    @Conquistador wrote:

    Hi guys…


    @LiquidProj3ct

    There was an interesting discussion about CPU usage in Podium here. (CPU spikes) It might help.

    Why Podium is using less CPU with Mulitprocessing disabled??? Don’t know. Maybe some of your plugins respond better or are coded for single processor usage?

    I guess Frits would know what is wrong here or at least know how to troubleshoot it.

    @bfloyd6969 wrote:

    I just started using Podium and I was going to post a thread about this but I’ll just tag onto yours. I noticed that Podium is using about twice the cpu as my other DAW’s.

    Have a look at this thread (Dual-core Multiprocessing question). Might shed some light on Podiums CPU usage

    Thanks for the link. I’m using a single core (yeah, yeah, I know). Anyone else using a single core with Podium and still getting fair results? Maybe it’s time to upgrade to a multi core?

    #14507
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    @DFusion wrote:

    Hmm. that is weird.

    To me it looks like you have Multithreading enabled in Reaper but not in Podium.

    I have it enabled in Podium also:

    Btw. where have you got that cool dragon background?

    Click here for download it:

    #14510
    DFusion
    Participant

    Thanks M8 😀
    I have to agree that the problem you have is weird since Podium is the most cpu friendly host on my system.

    Could you please post screenshots with the taskmanager set at Rendimiento instead of Procesos so we can see the load graph instead of numbers.

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