Hi, I rushed a new track in few hours (is techno, anybody can do noise in just minutes :P) and I didn’t stopped too much in rename and colorize things.
I had few inevitable thoughts about how I miss some feedback in Podium, so I’m going to expose them now. Open this screenshot and read while you contemplate the picture.
1. In arrangement view I’ve selected one single clip. I barely can remeber where the others phantom clips are, so I could screw it up (and I did it several times). Please, highlight (no active selection highlight) all phantom copies when you select one.
2. Grid should be more helpful, I had an small problem moving a clip (it isn’t easy see the bar numbers while you’re dragging), also a lot in editors.
3. Hiding unuseful tracks from arrangement or mixer. Nowadays if you hide a track in the mixer you hide it too from the arrangement view. Those outputs called Drumazon Out could be hided from the arrangement, obtaining extra vertical space. In the mixer few tracks can be minimized, it helps but it isn’t enough.
4. Clip list: What a mess! There are tons and tons of clips without name and they’re with the uncomfortable (imo) 2 2 2 2 2 names. I think those phanton clips should be hidden, leaving only one instance of each. Or make something like Live’s patterns.
5. Stickie notes highlight are almost invisible. I wrote something in the first Phoscyon track and I forgot it, because it’s barely visible. It should appear an optional icon in the header of each track.
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
1. In arrangement view I’ve selected one single clip. I barely can remeber where the others phantom clips are, so I could screw it up (and I did it several times). Please, highlight (no active selection highlight) all phantom copies when you select one.
Anyone have suggestions to how phantom events of a selected event should be highlighted?
Nice color setup, btw. π
Using a custom colour?
Nice color setup, btw. π
I just uploaded it to Wiki, you can download it here. I think it’s pretty inspiring.
@Zynewave wrote:
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
1. In arrangement view I’ve selected one single clip. I barely can remeber where the others phantom clips are, so I could screw it up (and I did it several times). Please, highlight (no active selection highlight) all phantom copies when you select one.
Anyone have suggestions to how phantom events of a selected event should be highlighted?
Nice color setup, btw. π
Though not directly related to the question, I’ve always liked the way the sequencer in Reason works in that it auto-assigns some random colour to signify different clips.
I find it really helps when it comes to arranging things quickly.
Mart.
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
Using a custom colour?
I think it would be overkill to add another color to the setup just for this. For each new setting that is added to the color setup, it becomes more and more complicated to create a color setup that does not conflict with custom track colors.
Could be a frame around similar clips? Pulsing few seconds after you select one? (in the same way arrangement power does)?
I see it very useful working with short clips or tons of them. I don’t see it in any daw, so I it would be another revolutionary small feature.
What about an option to “Flash” the phantom clips?
Instead of having them on a color constantly. Just right click – Show phantom clips and they would all flash on and off or something similar in the same blue color as when you select a clip…
Just an idea π
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
1. In arrangement view I’ve selected one single clip. I barely can remeber where the others phantom clips are, so I could screw it up (and I did it several times). Please, highlight (no active selection highlight) all phantom copies when you select one.
How about something like this?
It won’t work, of course, if Frits already has plans to change the look of normal event selections. Come to think of it, I think it also won’t work if you have those event headers enabled. :-k
Anyways, I’d prefer any kind of phantom copy highlighting to be optional, as I don’t need it personally.
2. Grid should be more helpful, I had an small problem moving a clip (it isn’t easy see the bar numbers while you’re dragging), also a lot in editors.
To more easily align sequences and events, I still like the idea of optional bars reaching down from the timeline ruler displayed at the beginning and end of events while moving/resizing them. Coloring even/odd bars differently is nice, too, but I’d prefer to have a blend setting to tone it down or even turn it off (already said that in the other thread).
3. Hiding unuseful tracks from arrangement or mixer. Nowadays if you hide a track in the mixer you hide it too from the arrangement view. Those outputs called Drumazon Out could be hided from the arrangement, obtaining extra vertical space. In the mixer few tracks can be minimized, it helps but it isn’t enough.
I don’t think you’d necessarily need another checkbox in the tags dialog (though it might be helpful), or a second check button on tag buttons.
What better place to tag tracks to be shown/hidden in the mixer than the mixer itself!
Think about it – what if tracks that get tagged would be shown in both the arrangement and mixer at first. When you remove a tag from a track in the arrangement, it stays visible in the mixer. The same happens the other way around. Since active selection in the mixer means the track isn’t actively selected in the arrangement anymore, I think there’d be little room for mixups. To again show a track that was, for example, accidentally hidden in the mixer, you could either select it in the arrangement, switch to the mixer region and re-tag it, or deselect the tag to show the track, and re-tag it like usual. You could add a modifier key for the check button to remove a track from both arrangement and mixer if you think it’s going to be cumbersome. Or remove tags from both if the mixer isn’t visible, and remove them only from the arrangement if the mixer is visible and you’re untaggin an arrangement track.
Does any of this sound good or is it still too confusing?
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
How about something like this?
It won’t work, of course, if Frits already has plans to change the look of normal event selections. Come to think of it, I think it also won’t work if you have those event headers enabled. :-k
Anyways, I’d prefer any kind of phantom copy highlighting to be optional, as I don’t need it personally.
Yes, something like that but more easy to the eyes. After you try it you will use it! π (well, if you work with tons of 1bar/2bar clips)
To more easily align sequences and events, I still like the idea of optional bars reaching down from the timeline ruler displayed at the beginning and end of events while moving/resizing them. Coloring even/odd bars differently is nice, too, but I’d prefer to have a blend setting to tone it down or even turn it off (already said that in the other thread).
Well, I was talking about gridlines in editors, not coloring bars differently (it’s cool, tho). I’ve problems when I’m moving notes in piano roll or creating new ones. Imagine a 8bar piano roll without bold gridlines at all, with one regular gridline each 1/16 notes. That’s the feeling I’ve when I’m moving short notes in a complex clip, I don’t know easily if I’m placing it in the step 12th ot 13th. If you set the snap in Podium to “Bar” you will see different gridlines. I’m asking they’re available too when snap value will be 1/16 or 1/32, having regular gridlines, semi-bold gridlines for each beat, and bold grid line each bar.
I don’t think you’d necessarily need another checkbox in the tags dialog (though it might be helpful), or a second check button on tag buttons.
What better place to tag tracks to be shown/hidden in the mixer than the mixer itself!
I was talking about ‘hiding’ not ‘tagging’ π They’re different things. Hiding can be perfectly compatible with tagging. Hiding means ‘hide’ the mixer OR track strip, never both. Try Sonar or Reaper and right click in one of their tracks, you could ‘hide’ them in the mixer or in the arrangement view. Sonar allows you hide them in both, but we don’t need such thing because we’ve the tag system.
Does any of this sound good or is it still too confusing?
I didn’t understand this paragraph too much (what a day! where are my neurons??), but I hope that above answer helps π³
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
I don’t think you’d necessarily need another checkbox in the tags dialog (though it might be helpful), or a second check button on tag buttons.
What better place to tag tracks to be shown/hidden in the mixer than the mixer itself!I was talking about ‘hiding’ not ‘tagging’ π They’re different things. Hiding can be perfectly compatible with tagging. Hiding means ‘hide’ the mixer OR track strip, never both. Try Sonar or Reaper and right click in one of their tracks, you could ‘hide’ them in the mixer or in the arrangement view. Sonar allows you hide them in both, but we don’t need such thing because we’ve the tag system.
Okay, so you mean something like a new “show in arrangemtent and/or show in mixer” setting for each track, totally unrelated to track tags? I just assumed the feature request was connected to tags because I remember you brought it up it from the tags preview thread!
Such a setting would go nice with track templates…
Yes, it would be very comfortable when you insert a multitimbral&multioutput template, ie, Poise with layered inputs and multiple outputs. Audio Outputs in arrangement view and Midi inputs in mixer would be hide.