Topic: Gain Control for General Midi Drums

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  • December 11, 2010 at 19:14 #2458
    pbattersby
    Participant

    I’m trying to make use of the drum sounds built into my Soundblaster card. I have hand edited a drum track, the output is set to midi channel 10. I can hear the drums sounds during playback, but I have no gain control over the drum track and if I render the track, I get silence.

    I think I understand that from the perspective of Podium, there is only midi data, no sound and any sound is being generated from an external source, as if I was sending the midi to a synth that was connected to an amplifier.

    Is there some way I can get Podium to use the Soundblaster sounds, the same way it uses sounds provided by a VSTi?

    December 12, 2010 at 05:28 #19958
    H-man
    Participant

    Hi Batman42ca,

    I think you need a VSTi Soundfont player. This is widely regarded as the best freebie:

    http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=35-CWSZ1.40-20E

    Description here:

    http://www.cakewalk.com/products/SFZ/

    December 12, 2010 at 06:21 #19960
    pbattersby
    Participant

    Thanks, but what is it going to do for me? Is it going to provide me with a bunch of sounds and the ability to add more, or will it enable me to somehow make use of the sounds provided by my Soundblaster card?

    I’ve already downloaded various free drum VSTis, but none of them support the full range of general midi drum sounds. My Soundblaster card does. The VSTis all have the basics but they only support a small subset of the general midi drum sounds.

    I think one solution to my problem might be to connect the output of my sound card to the input of my sound card. Podium could output on midi port 10 and record from the audio in. I was just hoping there was some internal way to do that.

    December 12, 2010 at 09:43 #19961
    H-man
    Participant

    @batman42ca wrote:

    Thanks, but what is it going to do for me? Is it going to provide me with a bunch of sounds and the ability to add more, or will it enable me to somehow make use of the sounds provided by my Soundblaster card?

    I’m pretty sure that your soundblaster just loads a GM soundfont bank? Try using the SFZ+ plugin to load it instead. Sounds should be the same?

    Note tho that I’m just pulling this from memory, I can’t test this myself anymore.

    December 12, 2010 at 14:44 #19967
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @batman42ca wrote:

    I think one solution to my problem might be to connect the output of my sound card to the input of my sound card. Podium could output on midi port 10 and record from the audio in. I was just hoping there was some internal way to do that.

    That may be the only solution, if you want to record the audio output of the synthesis engine on your soundcard. Some soundcards expose an alternative “loopback” audio input that you can assign to an audio track. This audio input will then record the synthesis output before it goes to the physical audio output. My old Yamaha soundcard supported this. I don’t know if soundblaster cards support it.

    December 30, 2010 at 23:45 #20178
    pbattersby
    Participant

    @H-man wrote:

    I’m pretty sure that your soundblaster just loads a GM soundfont bank? Try using the SFZ+ plugin to load it instead. Sounds should be the same?

    Note tho that I’m just pulling this from memory, I can’t test this myself anymore.

    It took me a while to get around to trying this but you were right. I was able to locate the sound font, on my hard disk, that is loaded by my sound card (I did a search for *.sf2). Using SFZ+, I was able to load that sound font and use it in Podium.

    Thanks.

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