Zynewave.
Mike GHi,
I was trying to use track templates accross all projects.
E.g. I want to setup/maintain a vocals template track with certain EQ and Reverb or other plug-ins etc, and use this in all my projects.
Is this possible?
I’m assuming it’s not possible due to plug-in devices that would be used in the track templates are held “per project”.
This then beings me to the next part of this post… Ever since I first started using Podium I thought plug-ins being “per project” was a strange (bad) idea.
For example if I move a plug in to a new folder or decide to re-arrange my plug-ins folder, existing projects break.
Another example would be if I add a new plug-in to a global list of plug-ins in Podium, what’s the harm in existing projects seeing that new plug in without me having to tell podium to “Import plug-ins from folder” again?
In the very least I would like to have a choice of “Global” and “Per project” plug-in/devices mappings. What do you think?
Also another minor related point is that using track templates was only available on certain context menus, i.e. When you right-click an existing track, not from the tracks regsion menu or from right-clicking in the area below the tracks. Is there a reason for this?
Many thanks,
Mike G
ConquistadorHi Mike,
@Mike G wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to use track templates accross all projects.
E.g. I want to setup/maintain a vocals template track with certain EQ and Reverb or other plug-ins etc, and use this in all my projects.
Is this possible?
In your current project yes, but IIRC not in any or every project. Frits may know some workaround for this but unless I am mistaken it is not yet possible. Frits will hopefully confirm or deny this if I have got it wrong.
This then beings me to the next part of this post… Ever since I first started using Podium I thought plug-ins being “per project” was a strange (bad) idea.
For example if I move a plug in to a new folder or decide to re-arrange my plug-ins folder, existing projects break.
Another example would be if I add a new plug-in to a global list of plug-ins in Podium, what’s the harm in existing projects seeing that new plug in without me having to tell podium to “Import plug-ins from folder” again?In the very least I would like to have a choice of “Global” and “Per project” plug-in/devices mappings. What do you think?
This is my biggest and maybe only issue with Podium right now. The higher the number of projects you create in Podium the bigger the problem you create if you make changes to your VST folder…OR hardware down the line.
I think the plugin / mapping issue is way over due for a solid solution. I suggested many different ways to address the issue but Frits said he would look at it “post 2.0” which I think is a very bad idea frankly as it could be months from now….or longer.
I started this automapping thread 12 months ago! There are many suggestions to solve the issue there.
If I was reading that thread now as a potential buyer I would not even buy Podium until it was addressed. Outside of that I would buy it in a split second. My usage of Podium is very limited as a result of this issue.
While I appreciate he has development priorities (what dev does not) I cannot see how Nucleum is more important than solving this issue.
It is another plugin so it too will suffer from automapping issues so surely mapping issues should be sorted out first.
Podium is the only host I know with this glaring weakness. Although it only shows up after using it for some time which makes it an extremely frustrating problem to encounter.
Also another minor related point is that using track templates was only available on certain context menus, i.e. When you right-click an existing track, not from the tracks regsion menu or from right-clicking in the area below the tracks. Is there a reason for this?
Not sure about this…perhaps Frits can clarify.
HTH
@ Frits
Sorry Frits I know you have your plans and projections for features but really mapping issues are puzzling me at this point. Podium is so close to being all I would need for many of the projects I create. It is a major problem…12 months old now.
When it is addressed I can start recommending it to people who ask me about Podium but in this state (even with all the great new additions) I cannot honestly recommend it. That would seriously concern me as a dev in your shoes.
It might be tricky to solve (weeks or months of dev time) or easy but it is definitely essential IMO that this issue is resolved. Sorry to have to bring it up again and again but I did not start this thread and the problem keeps coming up again and again.
I can only conclude that for some reason you do not think it is that big a deal. I just don’t get it. Just trying to help make Podium better. >shrug< That is what we all want. 🙂
rinxaiIndeed, this issue will keep coming up until resolved.
However, I believe Nucleum is perhaps a valid response to providing a more complete and rounded package that allows for a much needed ‘out of the box’ type functionality, with some funky demo songs.
Old and new fixes and features big and small must make a long list of tasks. I imagine it must be challenging for Frits to maintain order in prioritizing tasks, while also being flexible in addressing things as and when they are brought to light, hence the updates that not only address specific issues but also aim to generally refine the interface.
There appear several new features and improvements vying for top attention, and in a way I’m not too concerned which is being addressed, as most will probably be addressed in due course. But, here I agree with making this a priority, for reasons as stated in the above posts.
🙂
ConquistadorThanks for your comments rinxai 🙂
I certainly did not want my post to be taken the wrong way. I have been a supporter of Podium for years in various ways. Frits surely knows that.
Nucleum is indeed a valid response and a great idea it’s just it’s priority level IMO over mapping issues that for me is wrong. Especially as it too will be subject to problems with automapping.
Indeed it cannot be easy for Frits, with user requests here and there (many of mine in the past) but I think there are times when an issue really should be addressed if it is so obstructive to using a product. Even if a major dev effort is needed over a long time.
But it’s Frits decision at the end of the day, not mine. I will still support Podium here on this forum whatever he decides but cannot recommend it with that problem.
UncleAge@Mike G wrote:
In the very least I would like to have a choice of “Global” and “Per project” plug-in/devices mappings. What do you think?
+1
Zynewave@Mike G wrote:
I was trying to use track templates accross all projects.
E.g. I want to setup/maintain a vocals template track with certain EQ and Reverb or other plug-ins etc, and use this in all my projects.
Is this possible?
Not currently. I’m planning to add support for saving track templates to file, similar to the way project templates are saved to file. Don’t know when I’ll find time to implement this.
Also another minor related point is that using track templates was only available on certain context menus, i.e. When you right-click an existing track, not from the tracks regsion menu or from right-clicking in the area below the tracks. Is there a reason for this?
The track templates are not yet available in the recently added compact mode track menus. It’s on my plan.