adimatis.
michi_makI’ve f***ing had it! this is the BIGGEST crap of all times – every time i try to get back to Podium something different goes haywire! and my midi issues come and go and nobody cares
edit : please delete my account Frits – i wont need this abomination any longer!!!
The TelenatorIs this going to be one of those deals where you post a new thread every so often saying you are leaving, but three weeks later you are still saying you are leaving? In fact, haven’t you said your fair thee wells at least once or twice before? I could be mistaken here. I know for a fact some member or two was wrapped up in long goodbyes. Every week it is/was “I’m outta here!!!”
My way of dealing with difficult software that still has potential but clearly needs some modifications to bring it up to par is that I’ll relegate it to reduced service and meanwhile complain an awful lot. By the time I’m done driving home my very reasonable requests, they will be overjoyed that they finally fixed the problem so I would shut up. I’ve been relying on REAPER much more recently because of Podium’s dodgy situation with routing limitations on plugins. Now, I don’t expect Podium to become the ‘routing heaven’ of REAPER, and I did appreciate the recent grooming and fine-tuning it got regarding its MIDI editor.
My big issue remaining with Podium, now that I finally caved and bought a decent controller keyboard, is the very second-rate routing. There are quite a few good plugins that are hobbled or unusable in Podium. All the cool Fretted Synth plugin effects, like many others, have a MIDI as well as audio output on their effect, meaning that any electrified instrument you plug into them — think guitar here — can actually record MIDI lines as well as the regular processed audio sound. It works like a charm in REAPER, but Podium won’t allow it. It won’t accept virtual keyboards either, which resulted in costing me $200 just so I could make ANY MIDI at all in Podium. Really, the limitations are beyond annoying, and I lost a lot of producing time trying to make workarounds that were fruitless, too.
I want Podium to accept and record ANY plugin output from either FX or instrument and not behave so stiffly. Even the guide talks about handling both audio and MIDI from one plugin, and goes on and on about multitimbrel plugs, but it is weak and difficult in the realtime application of it. I’m not asking for ‘pie in the sky’ routing here, I just want full use of all of today’s popular plugins. Podium won’t take Wusik, Phrazor or practically any sequencer that needs a plugin placed in front of it to generate FX and or sound. I want to be able to use more than one plug on a track. This whole “Source” thing needs to go — INs and OUTs only, please, and chaining like everyone else. If a choice, I will tell it whether I want the audio or MIDI recorded — or both, one on one track, one on a neighbor This child track business only goes maybe halfway in this direction. No matter what I try, I end up marooned and frustrated. It’s inexcusable because I’m talking minor upgrades here. A good shuffling. A routing FIX.
In the end, I can’t blame anyone for bailing. I see it over and over — lots of early enthusiasm, then BANG, head hits a wall due to the discovery that Podium won’t let them use some of their favorite VSTs ’cause there is no way to hook them up, or some other standard DAW use is a no-go. There are a couple of other issues I’ve mentioned before, too, but pretty soon the new user is gone, not to be heard from again. The saddest part is there are only a small few things that need a fix to make Podium as good as any other. But once people move on, that’s it — THEY GONE.
Best Wishes, michi!
LionI’ve never had any real *problems* with Podium, more like small issues with certain lack of features that don’t really make or break a DAW program for me. But, this is beside the point.
Why bother making a big deal about not using a program? This is just a call for attention, hoping someone will plead that you stay.
There have been quite a few DAW programs, big and small that I tried for a while and then stopped using because it just didn’t do it for me, never have I gone onto their (or any other) forum, YouTube, blogs or anything like that to announce that I’m no longer using it.
Look at 9th wonder; for the longest he used FL Studio, then not very long ago he moved on to the MPC. He didn’t make a formal press release that he’s no longer using Image-Line’s software. Why? Because its no point!
The only thing this serves to do is either call attention to yourself or attempt to defame the company and/or make them appear to have inferior products.
You see this kind of stuff ALL the time online. Something that someone doesn’t like they are compelled with the urge to announce it to the globe so they can feel like people actually care what they think.
I know this is long and I’m up on my soapbox, basically criticizing you for being on YOUR soapbox and normally I’d just shrug it off but its just really annoying and even though I have plenty of better things to do right now, I’m not doing those things at this very moment. 😛 Also as Telenator has said, I’m pretty sure you’ve done this same thing once or twice before and even though I’m taking my time to write this I’m not going through the extra effort to search through your post history cause in the end, who gives a crap?
Here’s the real deal, instead of announcing that you’re no longer using a piece of software just simply stop using it and let people go “Where’s Michi (or whoever, really) been?” IF they even notice that you’re gone. That is all
rinxai@Lion wrote:
I’ve never had any real *problems* with Podium, more like small issues with certain lack of features that don’t really make or break a DAW program for me. But, this is beside the point.
…instead of announcing that you’re no longer using a piece of software just simply stop using it….. That is all
QFT
H-man@rinxai wrote:
@Lion wrote:
I’ve never had any real *problems* with Podium, more like small issues with certain lack of features that don’t really make or break a DAW program for me. But, this is beside the point.
…instead of announcing that you’re no longer using a piece of software just simply stop using it….. That is all
QFT
+1
I find I just get more done in Podium…
Peace michi, go and do whatever makes you happy. 8) -~
thcilnnahojHey, nice to see some of the long-time users are still around (though usually quiet, it seems, like me nowadays)! :):
The TelenatorLion wrote:
“I’ve never had any real *problems* with Podium, more like small issues with certain lack of features that don’t really make or break a DAW program for me.”
Without both users being extremely familiar with the needs and uses the other is making of the software, this may be no better than comparing apples to oranges.
This sort of reminds me, too, of the ones who write into a forum stating how they are having big troubles with some plugin or other software. In every case, before too long, someone will always respond by writing in response, “Gee, I’m not having any troubles with GoofyPlug VST at all!”
Not trying to point any fingers here, but the GoofyPlug quote I just posted seems to me both an insult and also an ignorance. The poster is assuming that since it works fine for him then it must be fine for the OP? The poster is suggesting the OP is misusing this GoofyPlug? The poster is calling the OP a liar?
Who can say what the poster’s intentions were, but one thing is certain: It doesn’t make GoofyPlug suddenly function better or fix the OP’s issues with the plugin. Yet you’ll see this response every stinking time.
In my own case and experience with Podium, I came to home use in DAWs in general after losing a perk which consisted of much regular free studio time. I was the Editor for quite a while of a regional music magazine, and my publisher owned a top studio also. When it came time to make a change, that perk went with it. So, knowing Cubase and Pro Tools from there and other studios, my expectations and demands are quite high and occasionally unforgiving.
But the bottom line is in this direction: I am not using Podium like many users here do — as not much more than a cheap cassette recorder, though in digital now. However, neither am I demanding Frits install full VCO slider automation control, just because all $100k recording desks have them and, nowadays, so does Sequoia and Pro Tools.
I’m making full professional use of the software I employ, a good deal more demanding and different than your weekend hobbyist. I don’t know all about michi’s frustrations, but I know they did exist, but my own issues with Podium come from the distinct fact that certain features it should have added by now — and ones that the other 99 do offer — are relatively easy upgrades. They really need to happen and reasonably soon.
What has greatly added to my own frustration with this recently is that, where the Zynewave Homepage claims that upgrades and development are “user-driven,” yet lately we users have not been included in the process. Our Feature Request lists have remained largely the same and unfulfilled, and communication with Zynewave has been rather minimal. Apparently, our needs have been shelved or overlooked and meanwhile Frits seems to be spending any DEV time on features no users requested. So, in a sense, I personally have been rather pissed, being doubly burned through this experience, dismayed and rather confused regarding what’s happening here.
adimatis@The Telenator wrote:
Lion wrote:
“I’ve never had any real *problems* with Podium, more like small issues with certain lack of features that don’t really make or break a DAW program for me.”
…certain features it should have added by now — and ones that the other 99 do offer — are relatively easy upgrades. They really need to happen and reasonably soon.
…Our Feature Request lists have remained largely the same and unfulfilled, and communication with Zynewave has been rather minimal. Apparently, our needs have been shelved or overlooked and meanwhile Frits seems to be spending any DEV time on features no users requested. So, in a sense, I personally have been rather pissed, being doubly burned through this experience, dismayed and rather confused regarding what’s happening here.
+1 (or 1000)
😕