Rottweiler.
RottweilerLet me introduce myself: my name is John, and im a KVR regular under the same nickname. I am a hardcore Energy XT2 fan but since the developement seems to be dead, i want to switch host now. My current PC is a criminally old one [think about 6 years], in the forecoming days i will buy a new one i think and i also want a DAW. My biggest issues with energy xt is the CPU heaviness, it can handle about the third of the work what i have done years before with Fruity Loops with half of the RAM now i have! I think its pretty extreme.
But with a modern PC hopefully performance wont be such a big problem, i should rather decide on the workflow. With energy xt i can work in seconds.
I need some guidelines about what is the logic behind podium. Why have i hassle with vst import? Is the different tools are there to simplify the anyway more complex/fieture rich environment? With xt i dont need to use anything like that, so its a bit unusual for me. Other thing i really miss the modular view :(. It just makes the life so much easier.
I will ask further questions if you dont mind, but this post is already too long.
Cheers.
UncleAge@Rottweiler wrote:
Let me introduce myself: my name is John, and im a KVR regular under the same nickname.
Welcome aboard! You’ll find quite a few KVR folk around.
I can’t help you directly with the logic involved other than to say that Podium is its own beast for sure. I too have eXT and I can tell you that there is not a lot of similiarities other than they both expose a linear (read: none pattern based) workflow. Take a look at the tutorials in the Wiki. Even though a lot has changed it still remains a good starting point.
IMO, Podium’s strengths are in that perceived complexity that newcomers encounter. I’ll just comment on one area: VST’s
There is a tremendous amount of flexibility in importing vst’s/vsti’s. Podium allows me to setup different projects that will show only the devices that I want to see. During your first setup you will probably choose to scan your vst folder. But that is not the only way of gathering those files. You can make a project and then decide later which to import. This is the option I use for all my projects. For instance, if I’m doing voice-over work, podcast stuff or spoken word projects, I just don’t need all of my instruments filling up the window. Now if I switch to a restoration project I’ll have a totally different list of tools that I want to see. In addition the projects can be saved as templates as well making the setup for other projects down the road a lot easier. There’s even more if you dig a little deeper but I don’t want this post to drag on forever.
Lastly I’ll say that I think Podium is very cpu friendly. Moreso than most hosts. However, don’t rely on the cpu indicator in Podium to give you the whole picture. If I remember correctly Frits didn’t design it to mimic the data you get from the task manager. Take a look at this post http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1539&highlight=cpu for more info. I’ll let Frits comment on whether things may have changed since then.
More later š
RottweilerThanks for your reply =).
@UncleAge wrote:
IMO, Podium’s strengths are in that perceived complexity that newcomers encounter. I’ll just comment on one area: VST’s
Yes, somehow i felt this answer coming by looking at the fact that Frits is a genious. Together with EXT’s Jorgen, i think they done a very great work at making a DAW alone.
What appeals me in Podium is the attention paidto the details, but onfortunately the basic concept misses some points, with EXT the situation is quite the opposite. I mean EXTs simple modular view grants an easy navigation and routing flow, but there are NO costumer support nor any update/bugfix, etc etc…
Sorry for coming here and spreading the word about EXT, i hope the developer does not find it too rude, thats really not my will.
So on Podium: i think i have not really seen such a polished application which radiates the same professional feel like this. Everything is just in place. I also love the smart coding of it: ive just tested it with a more than ten thousand bar long pattern :D. It workd without any problem.
The inbuilt sound editor why wont replace the standalone sound editors, is quite a handy thing, especially the fact that you can export just the sound itself! You dont have to export to wav the whole bar and cut the not used parts of the sound. If it could apply some kind of fx vsts to specific areas it would be awesome =).
More later =). One thing though, the piano rolls B,C and E,F notes are bigger than the other white keys, also the note do not fills out the space on the keys, nd i find it hard to navigate in the piano roll because of that.
Cheers.
ZynewaveHi John,
@Rottweiler wrote:
Is the different tools are there to simplify the anyway more complex/fieture rich environment? With xt i dont need to use anything like that, so its a bit unusual for me.
All of the functionality of the different tools can be accessed with just the select tool and by using key shortcuts and popup menus. So if you prefer to work in a “toolless” environment, you can ignore the tools or remove them completely from the toolbar in the editor profile setup dialogs.
Frits
Rottweiler@Zynewave wrote:
Hi John,
@Rottweiler wrote:
Is the different tools are there to simplify the anyway more complex/fieture rich environment? With xt i dont need to use anything like that, so its a bit unusual for me.
All of the functionality of the different tools can be accessed with just the select tool and by using key shortcuts and popup menus. So if you prefer to work in a “toolless” environment, you can ignore the tools or remove them completely from the toolbar in the editor profile setup dialogs.
Frits
Woh! Sounds cool. I think i will work a little bit with Podium to see if i can get used to it – i just realised you can save the project! Thats awesome, it allows for quite an in-depth testing.
If i can get used to livin without the modular view i think i have got a winner here , hehe =).
cheers. what a damn fine app.