duncanparsons.
dustyny1One of the best things about Acid (not the drug, though some may say that is nice too) was the ability to include all the wave files into the saved file so you never lost them. I have orphaned so many files in cubase and lost so many more. I don’t know if it is possible but it would be nice if the save file included the waves (with the option to leave them out if you want), as well as the programming information for VSTi’s and VST’s.
SardaukarI think this was mentioned before.
I think the answer was, that it would be putting all your eggs in one basket. If the save file became corrupt or lost, the wav files would also be lost. If the wavs are saves seperately, they can remain untouched.
SardaukarBut thinking about it. What you mentioed about having the option. Maybe nice 🙂
ZynewaveAt some point I intend to implement an archive function in the Project Wizard. After finalizing a project you would use this to pack the project and all referenced audio files together in a zip file.
Including wave files into the Project file is also something I considered a couple of years ago, but I decided against it. It would not be an efficient means of storage for the everyday work on a project. On the plan is an option to create sub folders for each arrangement within a project, to keep audio files for each arrangement separate.
dustyny1@Sardaukar wrote:
I think this was mentioned before.
I think the answer was, that it would be putting all your eggs in one basket. If the save file became corrupt or lost, the wav files would also be lost. If the wavs are saves seperately, they can remain untouched.
Any musician who doesn’t understand the importance of backing up often and using multiple copies of the same song is heading for trouble. My current project in cubase is on its 16th edit, it has its own save file and each edit gets a copy of the wavs as well. I also have a copy on a DVD+R (better for long term storage) and seperate server save of the latest edits.
Its a bit anal, but if you have lost a project 2 days before a deadline you will understand why.
@Zynewave wrote:
At some point I intend to implement an archive function in the Project Wizard. After finalizing a project you would use this to pack the project and all referenced audio files together in a zip file.
On the plan is an option to create sub folders for each arrangement within a project, to keep audio files for each arrangement separate.
I like the Archive function idea, zip is a nice universal format. Might I suggest the ability to load these zip archives directly in Podium. It will be a nice finishing touch.
Seperate arrangment folders is a very nice touch as well.. 😀
aeaHi! Just wanted to say that I’m trying it out now and it is a really great product. I also wanted to comment and say that I produce using multiple computers (laptop for on the go) and would like to be able to export everything to one file and copy that to my laptop for further editing. That might be a shared situation for other users and would be some justification for an archiving file.
duncanparsonsFrits,
as an aside to this, in the short term could there be an option to output a file containing all the links to files, both those added by the user as sounds, and those maintained by Podium. From some earlier experimentation, I have a few directories with old bounce tracks, some of which I reimported, others I didn’t. I would like to clean out the unused files but an scared to at the moment!!
A text file named after the project, with all the links (maybe even the VSTs used as well) would be great. Doesn’t need to be anything momentous, just a straight listing..
any chance of this???
Duncan
Zynewave..I also wanted to comment and say that I produce using multiple computers (laptop for on the go) and would like to be able to export everything to one file and copy that to my laptop for further editing.
Good point, I’ve added the archive feature to the future list.
as an aside to this, in the short term could there be an option to output a file containing all the links to files, both those added by the user as sounds, and those maintained by Podium.
Spoken like a true developer :wink:. I would much rather do it the right way from the start; I had planned to make a simple media browser window that would enable you to preview wave files and drag them onto tracks.
This media browser could be made useful for many tasks; A way to mark all files referenced by a project. The media browser would have New Folder and Delete buttons, which you could use to delete files not referenced by your project. The media browser would probably be the right place to add functions for archive/restore projects to zip files, and renaming/moving sound files so that the new sound file names/locations automatically would be stored in the project file as well.
I was planning to work on the VST GUIless editor windows next, but if you think this media browser is important, then I could start on it as the next thing?
SardaukarI was planning to work on the VST GUIless editor windows next, but if you think this media browser is important, then I could start on it as the next thing?
A media brower would be a useful thing. But couldn’t the object list be ehanced to provide these new options? As mentioned before, I much prefer the use of the object list over the project browser. To be honest, if I had my way, I would enhance the object list, so you could drag and drop from node to node; implement this new functionality…and remove the project brower completely. 😯 ..call me a rebel, if you will! 😉
ZynewaveAs I imagine it, the media browser window would include an embedded object list that shows only the sound objects imported into the project. Much like the panel lists in the track inspector. Next to this list would be a kind of traditional file explorer interface (in Podium style graphics of course).
duncanparsonsWell, I’m sold on the media browser!
I’m glad that GUIless VST provision was next. tbh (and in true developer style..) now that VST automation is there I have a workaround for not having a GUI. If you felt that the media browser would be a better next thing, then by all means do start! I reckon that it will be a good feature/ selling point, then do the GUIless provision after that.
Just my thought!
DSP
ZynewaveHigh on my list is support for dragging wave files directly onto tracks. Judging from the feedback of several users, one of the biggest obstacles is how to put premade sound files onto tracks. It’s not obvious that you have to import wav files into Podium, open an object list window and drag the sound objects onto tracks. This browser would hopefully improve on the workflow of this.
ageis@Zynewave wrote:
High on my list is support for dragging wave files directly onto tracks. Judging from the feedback of several users, one of the biggest obstacles is how to put premade sound files onto tracks.
I have to agree. I’m not sure how many gui-less VSTs I own (most likely very few) and would welcome enhanced asset management. Just be aware that myself and probably others will eventually want ‘acidized’ clips to work (for looping/timestretching/pitch/etc.) or possibly rex/rx2 support. Currently there are third party VSTi’s that can handle this sort of funcationality, but especially in regards to acidized wav use, dropping and managing them in the host is incredibly useful.
duncanparsons@ageis wrote:
I’m not sure how many gui-less VSTs I own (most likely very few)
mda plugs are the most common. I use them quite a lot… But most ‘modern’ VSTs are GUI’d..
DSP