buendiainside.
buendiainsideHi all,
This is my first post, recently registered (sorry for my english)
Well, the problem is that my ICON I-controls works well in Podium Demo. That’s great! But only for 8 channels. This controller has 4 layers/banks to use each for one different task (such as MCU, i’ve read). So i would like to know if there is something i didn’t well.
I have programmed layer 2 in Icon software, save changes, then open Podium and pfff..the daw doesn´t work and closes, if the ICON software remains opened. No way to configure in both softwares.
I finished got a little, changing the Channel Offset in “control surfaces”, in intervals, and de/activating the icontrols in order to work in this/that interval. But it’s not practical at all…
I appreciate any information about. I’m in the way to get my license. Great Daw!
Greetings from Spain.
ZynewaveHi,
I assume you are talking about this:
http://www.icon-global.com/Controllers_MIDI+recording+controllers_iControls+.htm
When the iControls is connected through USB, does it present more than one MIDI in/out interface in the Podium Audio/MIDI dialog?
Can you describe in more detail how Podium crashes? Does it occur immediately on startup?
My best guess is that, as long as the iControl app is running, it keeps a lock on the MIDI interface. That is probably what causes Podium to fail to open the MIDI interface when it starts up. It shouldn’t cause Podium to crash though, unless the crash happens in the MIDI interface driver.
buendiainsideHi Frits,
Thank you for your reply. I´ll try to explain carefully:
@Zynewave wrote:
I assume you are talking about this:
http://www.icon-global.com/Controllers_MIDI+recording+controllers_iControls+.htm
Yes, that is.
@Zynewave wrote:
When the iControls is connected through USB, does it present more than one MIDI in/out interface in the Podium Audio/MIDI dialog?
Yes, two midi inputs appear as:
iCON iControl v1.01
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01)
and one midi output as:
iCON iControl v1.01
In the midi input options of each track, two pairs of midi inputs appear as follows:
iCON iControl v1.01
iCON iControl v1.01 (with a 16 channels new box)
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01)
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01) (with 16 channels new box)
@Zynewave wrote:
Can you describe in more detail how Podium crashes? Does it occur immediately on startup?
In order to use the four layers of the controller i started configuring layer 2 in iCon software, manually. After that, i saved it into a file for after use.
Once i loaded this file and sent data to the iCon controller, I opened Podium. Then this one crashed (yes, inmediatly on startup) with a message like “the program stopped working….”. In the details that windows shows it says APPCRASH.
It doesn’t occur if i don’t open any sofware, and the iCon still works (as you say, probably don’t lock in this way…). It’s great, but only 8 channels work, so i have to manage in the “control surfaces” box as i explained before…
What i’d most like to know if there is a way to make the four layers work without having to assign the same controller each interval of 8 channels. Isn’t there a standard function in MCU for this? It would be perfect.
Well, i hope this is useful. If you need any other detail i´ll be very glad to contribute.
Greetings.
Zynewave@buendiainside wrote:
Yes, two midi inputs appear as:
iCON iControl v1.01
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01)
and one midi output as:
iCON iControl v1.01In the midi input options of each track, two pairs of midi inputs appear as follows:
iCON iControl v1.01
iCON iControl v1.01 (with a 16 channels new box)
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01)
MIDIIN2 (iCON iControl v1.01) (with 16 channels new box)
It sounds like you have selected the MIDI inputs/outputs on the MIDI page in the Audio/MIDI dialog. This is only needed if you want to record the input of the iControl. If you only want to use the device as a control surface, then you should only assign the MIDI in/out on the control surfaces page.
I don’t think there is something called “layers” in the Mackie MCU specification. A maximum of 8 channels is supported for each connected device, but there are button commands for moving the controlled channels up/down in banks of 8 or single channels. Maybe the iControl has an option to use these commands.
buendiainsideHi again,
You’re right, Frits, thank you for the clarification. It has no sense to assign iControls as midi input for using it as a control surface… 😳 Though this didn’t change the way it works.
@Zynewave wrote:
there are button commands for moving the controlled channels up/down in banks of 8 or single channels. Maybe the iControl has an option to use these commands.
Yes, iControl has two buttons for changing between 4 banks, up and down (“layer” is the name used in the hardware). But i couldn’t make them work as they are supposed to. Only bank 1 works correctly. If i move to any other bank the controls fail to respond. I did some new tests and only could use more than 8 channels by changing the banks manually, in control surface page, adding intervals of 8 channels (channel offset).
No way of solving Podium to crash when i send new data to the controller and leave the iCON sotware opened…I even can’t know if i’m assigning appropriate midi values. I better prefer not to use the software and work like i commented before. At least it works!
Hoping i can make these buttons work (i’d like to know how…any advice is welcome), that is not so a big problem for considering to jump to a 64 bits world. Maybe in a few days.
Greetings.
ZynewaveWhen you press the buttons for switching banks, do the ‘1’-‘8’ number indicators on the Podium mixer strips follow along?
buendiainside@Zynewave wrote:
When you press the buttons for switching banks, do the ‘1’-‘8’ number indicators on the Podium mixer strips follow along?
Unfortunately not. 🙁
I’ve just purchased the Podium license and will make a new test once I have installed it, tomorrow I guess. I’ll inform you about.
Happy anyway, I trust in this software, it’s about a personal taste. I’d like there was an easy solution for this.
Greetings.
ZynewaveI downloaded the iControl user manual pdf. It seems to me that the “layer” buttons doesn’t actually send out MIDI messages, but rather switch between iControl internal “scenes” of MIDI setups. To be able to dynamically change the fader banks, you’ll need to configure a pair of the iControl buttons to send out the MCU messages for bank or channel offsets. This page could be useful:
buendiainsideYessssss! 😀
My iControls is already running in Podium!
@Zynewave wrote:
This page could be useful:
Indeed!, thanks so much, Frits.
I began to understand the problem after your last reply. That was it, layer buttons don’t send midi messages, they are used for calling scenes previously mapped. So I took my time to find out the appropiate midi cc and assigned them. Miracle!
I even think these layer buttons can now add more possibilities for controlling, wich I didn’t value before..
Fully happy and proud of being a Podium licensed user.
Thanks and Greetings!