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@JonteyshLably wrote:
I want you to know that I use FL Studio for my “real work” but I wanted to test some other DAW too (not becouse FL Have any LIMITS, absolutly not, well only exporting surround sound…). I wanted something cheap and visually “good looking” and I fellt good when I saw Podiom.
I make hard dance and techno… and I know what I want after 1 year 9 months from a beginner too where I am now. but moastly a DAW don’t affect that… music styles… only workflow.
As you could see this is something I’m telling in VIP Lounge. Welcome Jonteysh 🙂
The moast annoying thing in Podium is that, alot of settings that affect a working project’s workflow do not save in “thi” project, like “editor profiles, setup profiles”. And there is no ability to save smaller presets of “editor profiles”, like, this preset is for the mixer, this preset is for pianoroll, this preset is for… If I make one misstake I have to start over and use the default setup for help, then use my “setup’s” (back n fourth?)but if I distroyd the sequencer I can’t take a peace from the default and than use it in mine… “@work setup” and then continue the mod.
I hope you understand me? I really like this and soon or later I will make a track with this wonderful DAW, and make a perfect good looking projekt. I really like the ability to make alot of color sets!
I barely understand you here, but I’m going to try. Editor profiles aren’t designed to be saved in the project file, however you can save them in a file using Setup–>Save setup. If you make mistake and delete something you can always restore it back using Insert New button, you don’t need restore default one!
When you do one or two songs in Podium you will realize that you only need one or two editor profiles. if they’re two you can switch between them with editor profiles buttons, if you have them in the profile.
Anyway I advice you start a new profile from zero and start adding components. You will find something that will work with you. I love plain and simple setups:
You have to make the pianoroll more flexible, no double click to prelisten a sample in browser (if I have not missed a setting) and smoother gui, like animitions, kinda deadlike, like in a cellphone from Sony Ericsson
This is also in the same thread from VIP Lounge. An yes, I totally agree, those small details are absolut winners.
@JonteyshLably wrote:
… soon or later I will make a track with this wonderful DAW…
You should really make a track before anything else.
You’ll soon realize that the problem you have is the problem and you’ll learn new ways of making music.
Animations? Mayby a little animated wizard floating around and pointing how to make music..? 😉
Editor profiles are indeed quite complex. Besides saving the complete setup, there’s also a way to create backups of each individual profile, so you could just go back to the original MIDI editor if you feel you made a mistake in editing it.
Go to the Setup menu -> Editor Profiles. This is a global list of all profiles, and you can duplicate or delete them. To switch to another profile, select it from the View menu in the respective editor (i.e., MIDI editor profiles will only show up in the MIDI editor’s View menu).
(Side note: This doesn’t work for the mixer – I’m thinking it would be useful if the mixer was handled similarly to the note/sound/curve editors in the profile management dialogs, and maybe got the contents of a view menu added to its current menu. That way you could keep wholly different mixer setups in the same way as it works with the other editors. :-k)
@JonteyshLably wrote:
You have to make the pianoroll more flexible, no double click to prelisten a sample in browser (if I have not missed a setting)
Hi,
The pianoroll is going to be improved in the future. Double-clicking in the file browser should start an audition/prelisten of the sample. A small progress indicator appears at the right side of the file in the list. You can right-click a sound file to see the audition shortcuts available.
If you don’t mind me saying, I think an ‘auto-audition’ option – like the auto-assign input or preset option – would be nice to start auditioning with a single click.
@thcilnnahoj wrote:
If you don’t mind me saying, I think an ‘auto-audition’ option – like the auto-assign input or preset option – would be nice to start auditioning with a single click.
From a usability point of view the most common action should require the least amount of clicks.
Currently single clicking an item in the browser just selects it, but the selected state offers no benefits, so in reality nothing changes if you single click something.
Windows suffers from this a lot, single clicking is mostly pointless in most applications, while it is the easiest action to perform.
In my opinion single clicking should preview a sound in the browser, why else would you be clicking it?
@kyran wrote:
In my opinion single clicking should preview a sound in the browser, why else would you be clicking it?
I would click it to select the first wave in a folder, shift+click the last wave file, and then drag the multi selection onto tracks. I tried this in Reaper the other day, and I was puzzled why the media explorer was playing a file while I was dragging the files. I think it’s important to support expected behaviour, and so it’s not always ideal to cut corners just because a certain key/mouse operation is rarely used in a part of the UI. Single-clicking objects in a list is normally used for selection and not actions.
I do think it’s a good idea to have an option button in the file explorer that can turn on an “Audition” mode, where single clicking (or arrow key navigating) will audition the selected file. Similar to how the “auto-assign preset” button works in the inspector preset list.
I understand, but it still works like expected. You’re not cutting out functionality.
I agree that you need to be careful with implementing non standard behaviour (even if the standard behaviour is hardly any good). You shouldn’t make right clicking on a folder delete it, or change the close buttons of windows from upper right to upper left for no other reason than “it’s prettier this way”.
It’s a difficult trade off between getting a good workflow and having people relearn their muscle memory, but the only negative point is “it’ll make a sound that the user won’t expect the first time” as far as I can see.
I even think a large portion of user will expect it to make a sound.
I’m sorry for the long rant, but I’m just very interested in design and interfaces. Sometimes you have to implement non standard stuff because it makes sense. First time users don’t expect the hierarchical engine, you need to relearn some skills, but then it makes sense and is very powerful. I like that sort of reasoning. If the concept is right and well executed people won’t mind if it differs greatly from the standard behaviour.
I like the behavior of only a single click in the browser to preview the sound.
I have my samples organized in folders as Kick, Clap, Bass, Bongo, etc (as the most of people) and 99.9% of times I only must add one sample each time of each folder. Sometimes I had to add two bongos, then I search one i like and I add it, and then i must search the other.
Reaper has an autoplay button in the bottom of the browser that I always had on. Maybe you could add a browser menu switch option as “Single click to preview samples”. It’s easy and fast. 🙂
Another problem with browser is that if it’s focused space bar doesn’t work.
Browser will be really useful when it supports drag and drop to VSTi, as samplers or drumsamplers, i’ll remember you this when you update it.
I have to agree, that an option would be very nice…
Sometimes it´s better the way to not auto audition on a single click, but there often situations, where I personally like to step through the files and there is a single click by far easier and faster to do…
or what I like even better is to click on the first sample to audition and step by “arrow down/up” on the keyboard through the next ones.
And what I love in e.g. Reaper is, that I can preview rex files and midifiles in sync with the song by “start on bar” to hear them in context…this is a very nice feature, especially with midifiles as well!
Couldn´t you implement something like this, I personally think, that would be very helpfull, especially sending midifile data to the selected track…
Trancit
@Trancit wrote:
Couldn´t you implement something like this, I personally think, that would be very helpfull, especially sending midifile data to the selected track…
As I wrote in my reply further up this page, the auto-audition option is a good idea and will likely appear in the near future. Auditioning MIDI files is also something that I will implement later on. There already is an option for syncing audio file audition to bar starts during playback, so that will also apply to MIDI files.
That´s good to hear 😀
Trancit