druid.
InfinitoarI’ll just get to the point-
-Sometimes the left Cntrl button doesn’t work when pressed to copy selected events. And it’s not my keyboard because I’ve tried this on many PC’s and laptop’s and it seems sometimes Podium cannot recognized when the left Cntrl is pressed
-I’ve lost all my placements for my .wav files somehow. I didn’t do anything and since they are remembered by that dreadful .MINI file, those files are somehow gone or corrupt. I have no idea WHY you invented the .MINI system for the .wav file placement but this is beyond me trying not to “lose my cool”. My Cymbals, Crash Cymbals, and many other .wav files for my drums are now gone for 7 songs. This detour makes me very upset. Hell, I’ll even go as far to say as it pisses me off. Tremendously. 7 songs, I have to redo. And no I don’t delete the .MINI files either, so what happened to Podium and why is it malfunctioning on me with the .MINI “system”, I have no idea. To me you need to get rid of the system and somehow integrate it into the .pod file. Somehow. But of course that’s up to you.
-Of course the proven irregularities with most VST in Podium. The jumping CPU gauge is makes mixing and creating projects for me more like trying to break in Area51. I would like to feel a bit more comfortable but I suppose that is no importance to you Frits, which is fine by me, it’s your program, your product.
Anyway in conclusion I will not buy Podium. I will buy PreSonus Studio One 2 Producer. I recently bought the 249.99$ PreSonus Studio One Bundle and of course it comes with the artist edition of Studio One. I was going to save my money and buy Podium right then and there, but since Podium has been recently causing me immense problems, problems that halt my work on my EP[or album]I have come to the conclusion that this is severely unacceptable in each and every way to me. And as I told you before, I cannot wait for “your decision” of what you deem is important as far as certain updates for Podium.[No offense, but your starting to seem like EAGames, and EA does that a lot. Only do updates that are meaningless and lose more than they gain…] I will buy the crossgrade option which is only 100$ and hopefully I can FINALLY get my EP and many remixes I’ve put on hold[speaking of which unfortunately I have to redo or “re-apply” the drums in 3 of my remixes I am doing….. *sigh* 👿 ]done within time. I will check back every so many months to see what “minor” or simple unrelated changes you’ve done to Podium and maybe if things start looking up, I’ll consider purchasing. For now, I will not. All of my hope in this DAW, your brainchild, is gone. And so is my hope in you Zynewave.
However I will thank you for the initial experience in your program, and I do appreciate what you made, but there are some things I believe you need to sit down, and very importantly reconsider. There have been good ideas for feature changes and requests, and I see nothing as far as progress being made. This is not good for me, maybe best for everyone “else”, but not good “for me”.
druidYou are so volatile Infinitoar. I don’t want to neglect you your negative experience nor your apparent need to rant. However, I wish you wouldn’t make assumptions about things that are false.
The .mini files, as I understand it (and anyone is welcome to correct me), are a way for .wav data to be visualised faster on next load. To view a waveform, you must load it and convert it to visuals. The .mini speed this up. I sincerely doubt your .wav files were removed because of the .mini files. I find the .mini make things messy and I don’t like them, however they’ve never caused me issue and I don’t think it has anything to do with your problem. Please find another scapegoat.
The ctrl button problem sounds more like a hardware or user error to me. Why would Podium decide to ignore a button on a whim? Does it depend on whether you hold the button before or after clicking, maybe? I’m not saying your hardware IS broken, I know you’ll want to tell me it works fine in other software, but I cannot believe Podium chooses to ignore key presses sometimes.
I have nothing to say to the rest, as I know you like to express your negative feelings and to vent. I would definitely recommend you choose a software package that works most for you, and if that’s not Podium, then that’s how it is. I hope you can find software that finally works how you’d like it to without making you explode.
Take care.
InfinitoarAm I volatile?
No.
That is what you assume, and you know how the old saying goes about people who “assume”. Of course my words seem sharp, but being volatile would mean I type completely offense to Frits. I only expressed that “internally” I was very upset and only spoke my strong opinion.
Assumptions I am making?
No. I been having this experience on multiple PC”s not just mine. I hope you didn’t skim over that point.
Was I upset?
Yes. But not enough to start cussing out[not saying you cussed either] Frits or saying what I used to say back when I didn’t think about Frits’ being one man and not having enough time to do important updates. not upset enough to immediate find other DAW’s and use them, and not upset enough to start smashing things or severely offending anyone.
Druid you “assume” that my problem makes me want to explode, and yes inside it does. “Anyone” who has more problems then they can solve comes to a point in their lives where they become very upset. But if that does not happen to you, then maybe you can give me some pointers on what not to say on the “internet”, seeing how apparently my words have audio behind them.
Did the .MINI file have anything to associate with “all” my song arrangements having the missing .wav “placements”?
-Yes. The .MINI system I’ve been told “before” is a “snapshot” for the .wav files, if deleted the .wav is removed from the arrangement, you keep the .wav on your HDD, but now to Podium it doesn’t know “where” to put that because you just deleted the information that told Podium “where to put it”.[if you don’t believe me, try it.] And it was spanning 7 solo material songs and 3 remixes,[the drums samples I used] so if that happened to you, I’m sure it would have made you upset like it did me.[Note that these arrangements not only varied in length but because of certain tempos, had different placements in each project.]
Maybe you use Podium for “fun time”, maybe you use Podium for “not so serious use”, however “I do”. I take my time making precise placements and audio slicing and everything to my arrangements only to have them deleted? I really think the .MINI file system is a bit broken. You may defend Podium because you refuse to give Frits your own critical opinion, but that is you. Not me.
The track and any effect is still there, but of course the “.wav placements” are gone. And ever since my .pod file somehow became corrupt not only do I now save on my HDD I also save frequently on my external HDD “and” USB stick.[Yes, now I am that paranoid now unfortunately] So the .pod isn’t the culprit then what is? And how could I have deleted the “placements”, not the .wav file because that is still there, of each “placement” in 10 different arrangements?
I will find software that is comfortable with me, and not make me want to “explode” because I am a musician I take each and every project seriously, but I am also not going to neglect the fact that Podium is holding me back from getting anything done. Maybe you all are used to Podium holding you back, but I however am not. I like to get things done and finalized and if Podium doesn’t want me to accomplish that then that’s fine. I’ll just find another DAW. You think I am saying this to deeply offend Podium, but the way I feel is that Frits does not “care”. Like the example I put of EAGames, he only listens to the overall direction of what “he believes” is the proper direction for Podium, not what the users want. I think after a while of giving “no’s” to people for certain features that have still yet to be mentioned of being even at the very least “worked on”, people have submitted to his “direction”. I however do not. I’ve worked retail for a long time, and I know, if the customer isn’t happy[or customers], which Frits has had a “lot” of unhappy customers, your business will be “unhappy” in a way of speaking. If Podium wants to see any growth I believe Frits needs to try to reconsider and listen to his customers and potential customers. Otherwise Podium will and always will be a “stepping stone” to the more high cost DAW’s out there.
And besides to due to a past post I did a while ago, I thought you were never going to respond to my post because you find 100% of them to be “volatile and immensely offense”? Guess I was wrong.
druid@Infinitoar wrote:
Did the .MINI file have anything to associate with “all” my song arrangements having the missing .wav “placements”?
-Yes. The .MINI system I’ve been told “before” is a “snapshot” for the .wav files, if deleted the .wav is removed from the arrangement, you keep the .wav on your HDD, but now to Podium it doesn’t know “where” to put that because you just deleted the information that told Podium “where to put it”.[if you don’t believe me, try it.]
I’ve just tried this by deleting .mini files I had for vocals placed in an arrangement. I then loaded Podium, and all the .wav placements I had with all the setup were stored. Then I found the .mini had been recreated. It IS a “snapshot”, but it’s not the kind of snapshot I think that you think it is.
Could you try starting a new empty project, and grab some small .wav from somewhere and put it in the timeline, I believe a .mini will be created. Save the project. Close Podium. Delete the .mini file that was created, then reload the project. Is the .wav still placed? This would help work out if you can replicate the problem in a “fresh” scenario, which naturally won’t help you with your previous issues but might help shed light on the issue.
@Infinitoar wrote:
And besides to due to a past post I did a while ago, I thought you were never going to respond to my post because you find 100% of them to be “volatile and immensely offense”? Guess I was wrong.
You just misunderstood. That particular thread was the one I was referring to, and since then you had calmed down a lot. You can claim that you aren’t externally expressing your frustration to the level you feel inside, but it is apparent in your word choice, your elaborate analogies (EA Games? It’s a completely unnecessary and honestly invalid comment) and the way in which you repeat your views for a second or even third time. I’ve been guilty of the same, and I can understand that you are frustrated, but I personally feel that your post contains enough heat in it, and padded with excess feelings, that it becomes what you are claiming it is not.
I accept that you are having issues. However, you are jumping to conclusions, because you are pointing the blame at specific things (the .mini files for example) without actually understanding how they work or what they are for. All I would like to see you do is calm down a little (I know it’s hard especially when you’ve lost something) and objectively look at things. It is quite possible Podium isn’t for you when you want to seriously work. Finding that out is good, it allows you to look for alternatives! It’s positive! Whether you like it or not, you have made unfair jabs towards the software, and me for that matter. The problem is, I feel that all you will do is defend yourself to the death with no real ability to compromise. That was my issue with you previously, and it appears, still is. Has it occurred to you that this very attitude you are portraying is the same you are fearful of fans of Podium doing to you?
You can’t bundle me in with “fanboyism” or anything like that as I don’t use Podium seriously, which you yourself said (whether you knew or not; assuming, were you?). Podium isn’t perfect, and I never claimed it didn’t have problems. However, you are lumping me in regardless because you cannot take anyone disagreeing with anything you say.
I have nothing further to say on this specific thread unless I can see that you are willing to work with others to try and resolve the issues. I’d love to see you try the .mini files out like I suggested above, and look forward to seeing the results of this. I’d also really appreciate it if you could stop your attacks, subtle or otherwise, as they offend me.
Finally, I apologise for using words such as “explode” and “rant”. While I do view what you are doing as being just that, I was being too frank in my choice of language and could’ve easily skipped those words when originally posting. It would be great if you and I could both skip suchs words and phrases!
InfinitoarOk Druid let’s highlight some things here:
-“You” feel offended when I compared Zynewave to EAGames? How do you think Frits feels when everyone on the forum compares his DAW to other DAW’s and say: REAPER has this, but Podium doesn’t have it. Cubase has that, but Podium doesn’t have have it. Abelton has this but Podium doesn’t have it. I think Frits would possibly feel hurt when his DAW is compared to other software giants out there. Especially when everyone is knocking on the fact Podium doesn’t have this feature or that feature. I’ve sat back and thought about that and that is just as worse. I make one simple “unrelated” comment about his “business directions” and you are quick to defend it? What about when people compare Podium vs. Competition DAW? To be honest I see to you and many other people I am just a threat, and if I am then so be it.
-You accept I am having issues? I highly doubt that. I really do. This is more of a debate than anything else now…
-Calm down a little? I literally “LOL” at most people’s responses and even my own posting because I know it would be taken negatively. Thus again, one sided people coming out of the woodwork “trying to seem” 2 sided. Absolutely funny.
-People make unfair jabs all the time, it’s a part of life Druid. Where I work people make unfair jabs at the price of products that I try to sell them all the time, I have to deal with it. I suggest the same to you. And also, unfair jabs at you? Haha! So you’re and angel and you didn’t use certain “internet word placement sentence techniques” to make jabs at me initially? Wow. You must be a saint! *laughs*
-You feel I will defend myself to death. Of course I will! You’ve read what I put above this little insert and you are making “professional worded jabs” also, so of course I will make some back. I don’t think anyone sits on the net and let’s someone else insult their intelligence.
-If you have a issue with me, fine. This is a big issue for me and I want people and Frits to know about it.
-I can’t bundle you with fanboyism? Then what is this? Fanboy’s defend what they love on a one sided basis. This clearly shows in your little speech. And I never accused you of being a fanboy, I only said the people when defend Podium even if someone has a legitimate reason to “critically judge it”, as I did. But you’re right and I am wrong, so again hats off to you.
-If you have nothing to further say to me, then good. Because I critically judge Podium, you defend it and offend me, I defend myself and “still” critically judge Podium and of course jab back at you[when I should have just ignored it, well next time I will], and now you’re the victim? Hahahahahaha! This is like the school bully getting beat up and reporting that the little guy who had enough and beat “him up” was bullying him and should be punished! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How about this? You stop belittling me and jabbing at me, I’ll stop jabbing at you and continue with my critical review of Podium and the “business direction” I believe it should go in. Deal?
And now you apologize. While you still “currently view” that I do what you said I do[labeling and jabbing at me again..haha…wow], you are sorry and now want to end the “debate” after you offended me “professionally” so you had the “last say”. Ok I accept your apology.
Then again this is the internet and apparently my words have audio behind them and seems to always be in the tone of “really angry guy”. There’s a difference between “anger and being upset”. I see being upset as a sad inner feeling like wanting to cry, or depression. Somehow a “quiet calm rage, like if someone upsets you, you drown them out with you iPod or something. Being angry I see as causing physical violence and doing violent things. Like you grabbing your home theater system and cracking it to full volume and playing the loudest, heaviest hitting song you own.
Or in short as my mother perfectly put it: Dogs get mad[angry], people get upset, there’s a difference.
In the end I do love Podium, and without Frits’ brainchild I would be dealing with DarkWave Studio and LMMS, which both I do NOT like. Podium has stability but that is the only single greatest feature for me. Other things as far as “other instabilities” and alternating certain current features I believe need to be worked on 1st and foremost, but it’s up to Frits.
But what do I know? I’m just some douche who didn’t buy the program, so I didn’t contribute anything, and I just rant and rave and offend everyone. Heh, lucky me right?
adimatisTruth is, Infinitoar, that both you and me, and of course some others that have not payed for Podium are limited in being very vocal!
I expressed my own frustrations with Podium, but I do aknowlegde I am only blessed to be able to use Podium Free – if I choose to do that. Regardless what it gives me or not – it is FREE. Take it or leave it.
For the licenced users, well, that’s another story. And because it is another story, I also did not payed for Podium yet.
InfinitoarThanks for the feedback Adimatis!
I will not lie, it’s the best freeware DAW out there. There aren’t any DAW’s that can compete with Podium in terms of a free version. As I expressed I am more than grateful of Podium Free and I love it.
But i am only concerned with “stability issues” Adimatis. Not extra features, only stability issues! I really just want more stable management with VST’s[there was a discussion about certain VST’s making Podium CPU usage “jump” even in the full version], the rid of the .MINI file system or integration of it into the .pod file, and a backup system, with multiple file pathway save system! That is all I would ever want for Podium Free and the full version! That would make me buy it without question!
And Free users opinions shouldn’t be silenced by the paid users. That is very unfair to me, but alas, you may be right. Heh, oh well I suppose.
And I guess it is a different story for the payed users in some aspects, BUT- overall we both[paid and free users] use the same program, so why not share views? I also think due to the divided-like feelings that, that is why Zynewave just does what he thinks is right. If we come together on a common agreement on a feature that is already there and needs to be tweaked, or a feature that we can all agree is very important and needs to be implemented Zynewave can come to the conclusion that it needs to be done. But divided he may only see chaos, so he does what he thinks is the “next best approach”.
But I do remember this:
“Development concentrates on quality and stability. Software updates are released frequently with an active user-driven development cycle.”
Correct me if I am wrong, but that clearly mind-as-well say: “Updates come if enough people are in agreement on the much needed update or feature.” And he states stability, which as I stated in a different post I read he did admit Podium needed more looking into for VST PC resource usage too avoid the irregular CPU/RAM usage.[and yes I know about VST’s having irregular behavior themselves, I forgot the “term”, but I remember…] I just wonder if at all “when” will we see any of this? Can’t we even get a percentage update? Hahaha
Like for example: “backup save feature progress”: 20%[out of 100% of course]
I think that would be cool. Features and the percentages of them. Even if it’s 0%, at least we know what is being worked on. 🙂
But yet again, who am I? Nobody, that’s who.
Anyway, going to hopefully finish this song in “Podium Free”. Hopefully I can get further. Oh and my PreSonus Audiobox comes in later this afternoon! Can’t wait. I’m more concerned about the hardware than the software in it.
adimatis@Infinitoar wrote:
Oh and my PreSonus Audiobox comes in later this afternoon! Can’t wait. I’m more concerned about the hardware than the software in it.
🙂 I envy you, I think Studio One is a great piece of software, and while Artist is limiting by not allawing VST plugins, still you’ll have plenty of material, given the Native Instruments and other third party content.
About hardware… I red mostly good reviews. I myself have an E-MU 0404 USB 2.0 with which I am very happy – but if I didn’t, the Audiobox would be my first choice probably. Followed closely by NI Komplete Audio 6 and Steinberg’s CI2.
So, enjoy your new gear. I am sure you’ll be happy with it, and maybe what Podium frustrated you with, Studio One will do better. It does have several features that is still missing from Podium. Whatever will be, enjoy making music!
😉
Adi
InfinitoarThanks Adi![if I may shorten your name to such]
I’ve heard VERY good reviews about the PreSonus Audiobox[note that this is the 250$ bundle of course], and my mentor “jokingly” told me he was jealous of me obtaining that and my Schecter Omen 6.[If you haven’t guessed I love rock/metal/symphony and electronica, so that is what I make] So I feel that I made the right decision with purchasing the Audiobox[and the guitar] not only for the software, but moreso on the hardware!
I’ve looked at the Native Instruments Complete audiobox bundle and I must admit based on reviews[which were good ones] and the software that comes with it, I may be tempted to buy that in the future! It “looks” cool, but of course looks aren’t everything, but Native Instruments has never let me down so I’m sure the audiobox lives up to the good nature of it!
I know the Artist edition of PreSonus does not allow you to use 3rd party VST’s but the crossgrade option is only 100$ to go from Artist to Producer.[Note this is Studio One Artist going to Studio One 2 “Producer”.] I will still use Podium and as it sometimes causes me some frustration and me being overall upset when things go wrong, I will still use the DAW.
I will always enjoy making music, this is why I do it! 😀
Levendis@druid wrote:
@Infinitoar wrote:
Did the .MINI file have anything to associate with “all” my song arrangements having the missing .wav “placements”?
-Yes. The .MINI system I’ve been told “before” is a “snapshot” for the .wav files, if deleted the .wav is removed from the arrangement, you keep the .wav on your HDD, but now to Podium it doesn’t know “where” to put that because you just deleted the information that told Podium “where to put it”.[if you don’t believe me, try it.]I’ve just tried this by deleting .mini files I had for vocals placed in an arrangement. I then loaded Podium, and all the .wav placements I had with all the setup were stored. Then I found the .mini had been recreated.
I too tried replicating the bug, with the .mini file, without success. My sample placements were all correctly aligned. Another test I made was to:
Based on the tracks you uploaded to our SoundCloud group, I’d say Podium has served you well. Keep us informed if any .pods you make in the future get uploaded. And enjoy working with StudioOne 8)
InfinitoarJust a quick note, did anyone of you try this in Podium “Free” instead of the “licensed version” which is way more updated than the free version? Just a thought…
druidWell, I certainly didn’t. Did you try what we’ve mentioned, in a fresh project with fresh .wav files to remove all other possible causes?
Also, decided to go against my agreement to some degree. 🙂