Topic: Insert x number of tracks…

@Podianer wrote:

possible by using the wizard.

Which one the old project wizard or the new four button process? I cannot find anyway to choose how many tracks I want to insert before I insert them.

If the process exists in the old project Wizard I think Frits will likely phase that out anyway as it was created to serve the older version of Podium not really for the more recent versions with the new project start page.

So even if an option existed within the old project Wizard it is very likely to be moved elsewhere (I would still like to know where it is)

I cannot find any option in the new four button process either to choose the number of tracks to insert before inserting them. Please show me how if it does exist anywhere in Podium currently. 😉

@Podianer wrote:

In the old wizard go to the bottom. Select all the mappings you like to link to new tracks, and click on “create tracks”. Especially when creating 12 tracks for a drum sampler, this feature is great, because you can easily selects all sampler mappings at once.

Ok I see what you mean…but that is not the same thing I am suggesting. It does allow you to select as many mappings as you want but I am referring to simply right clicking on a track and being given a very simple numerical value (likely default 1) that I can change to 5, 10 or 20 e.t.c

I want to avoid going to the wizard which will likely be phased out anyway and involves Ctrl clicking to get the number mappings you want.

The suggestion I am putting forward is much quicker and simpler. What you described is similar yes, 😉 but not exactly what I am suggesting.

I am suggesting a very simple track level right click numerical option. 😉

@Podianer wrote:

I posted exactly the same request as yours some time ago, and Frits mentioned the “wizard way”. For me, the process of creating several tracks as you describe, is better too. I also hope Frits will implement this rather simple feature soon. I hope it is simple.. 😉

I am 99% certain that he said that because the new project start up page was not created at that time.

Even now there are many features on the old wizard that are duplicated in other places or need to be moved over to more appropriate areas like placing the Import Multitimbral Plugin option in the Devices: drop down menu along with pretty much every Plugin Mappings option that currently exists in the old wizard.

It will not happen overnight but even now it is being replaced by the new project page. 😉

@Podianer wrote:

Perhaps Frits could help here as the new track template feature is implemented now.

Frits could by default create a template arrangement, that also by default holds a group track named “several tracks”. This group track holds track templates for e.g. “5 Tracks”, “10 tracks” and “15 tracks”. This is how I have changed my template arrangements.

So the old feature from the project wizard would find a new home in the template feature.

That sounds like a good idea…a sort of ‘starter’ group of templates, yes why not. It would certainly help. Having said that I think my initial suggestion is not really the same thing as your suggestion (which is a good one) if anything because of recent changes in Podium since I first made the “insert x number of tracks” feature request, it is probably now better implemented as an extension of the existing New Track and New Child Track right click options within the ‘main’ arranger not the track template arranger.

So clicking on any of those two, would bring up a small option box giving the user a number field to specify how many they want.

Your suggestion is very good for Track templates but the FR I suggested for this thread is quite different as it would operate with the New Track and New child Track options when right clicking a track in the ‘main’ arranger (not the track template arranger).

@Podianer wrote:

I think we mean the same 😉 If Frits would put some template tracks in the template arranger by default, you could easily “load” them (without mappings attached) by clicking under “create child tracks”.. With a submenu, which can easily be created by putting the tracks in a group beforehand, this feature seems to be exactly what you suggested, unless I am completely misunderstanding you. But I think I got you right. 😉

Correct. You got me right 🙂

That is a very clever way to acheive my FR 😆 But…because track templates cannot be copied or used in another project my FR still stands why? If implemented it would be available in any project, existing or new.

Your suggestion is brilliant for a single project but cannot be used for other projects or copied to other existing projects.

The Track template a user could build, based on your suggestion (with a previously saved number of tracks to be recalled) can only work with that specific project.

My FR would work in any project new or existing as a right click option.

I think Frits explained what he plans to do to get around the template limitation between projects issue in the 1.70 thread. Once he has done that…your suggestion would easily work across new and existing projects. 😉

While we wait my FR would have to still stand. It would still be my preferred option in any case. 😉 Ideally having both would be even better. 8)

@Podianer wrote:

You should read my posts more thoroughly! 😉 I suggested that Frits could implement a “default template arrangement” which already has the tracks mentioned before. This default template arrangement would be created everytime we create a new arrangement. Thus you have them in every project and we do not have to create them by ourselves! 🙂

he he a slight misunderstanding here. 8)

I read your post properly….I responded to this statement…

If Frits would put some template tracks in the template arranger by default,

At this stage of your comment you clearly are implying that Frits could create some template tracks, that would appear in the track template arrangement by default. (Fine).

However based on this comment above…as we both know, any thing created in an existing track template in Project A, cannot be copied to another project or Project B. Or another existing project.

That suggestion would only work for a single project, or for the project currently in use. Or any *new* projects, but not across any projects as based on your comment above they would be created within a track template arrangement, which right now would guarantee they would not be available to copy to another existing project 😉 That is why, that was my response.

You then said…

you could easily “load” them (without mappings attached) by clicking under “create child tracks”.. With a submenu, which can easily be created by putting the tracks in a group beforehand,

Which is absolutley correct and would work, thats why I then said

“Your suggestion is brilliant for a single project but cannot be used for other projects or copied to other existing projects.”

So it appears what you meant to say first time around was for any *new* projects your suggestion would work. Because any track templates created by Frits into a default template arrangement would not be available in any other existing project only new ones.

New projects yes, any (inlcuding older projects) no. 😉

But now you have added a bit more detail… 🙂

You should read my posts more thoroughly! I suggested that Frits could implement a “default template arrangement” which already has the tracks mentioned before.

Yes, you said that but…not this…

This default template arrangement would be created everytime we create a new arrangement. Thus you have them in every project and we do not have to create them by ourselves!

Now you are clearly saying that the default template arrangement (I assume with the track templates Frits could create already in place) would be created every time we create a new arrangement. You did not say that before in the post I responded to, that is why I misunderstood you 8)

he he again just the use of words caused a little confusion. 8)

So you are referring to *new* projects only, I am referring to how your suggestion will not work for older or existing projects.

Your suggestion as I said earlier cannot work with any project, it will only work with new. Which I think is what you meant to say. My FR for this thread is now definitely different to yours as it would work with new or any existing projects…:)

A bit of a muddle there for a minute 😆 I hope that helps. 8)

@Podianer wrote:

Thanks for clearing things! 😳 🙂

🙂

But one thing: I already tried that.. Create the aforementioned template tracks (without mappings attached, because you want empty tracks, I guess) and copy the whole group. This is possible with the current implementation. You can paste these tracks in any existing project’s template arrangement. This of course only works for empty tracks, as the tracks loose their mappings when copying to another project. Is this some help? 😛

The loss of mappings is a no go for me. In any case the right click option is still my preference 😉

Again, sorry for the misunderstanding

No problem! 🙂 this whole discussion provided a good exchange of ideas for Podium 8)