Topic: meter calibration?

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  • September 14, 2007 at 16:42 #1419
    jpleong
    Participant

    Hi Frits, I was wondering if there was any way to calibrate the meters used in Podium?

    Currently, they’re set to dBFs (if I’m not mistaken), and I’d like to be able to move the 0-point around relative to 0-dBFs.

    Thanks,
    JP

    September 15, 2007 at 13:30 #10830
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Currently they are fixed at 0 dBFS.

    Should this be an option in the arrangement properties, or is there a need to customize this for each track meter?

    I’ve been meaning to look into the K-System, which seems to have become a standard:

    http://www.digido.com/bob-katz/level-practices-part-2-includes-the-k-system.html

    What’s your opinion on the K-System?

    September 15, 2007 at 14:54 #10831
    jpleong
    Participant

    That’s exactly why I ask! I just finished “calibrating” all my equipment to Mr. Katz’ suggestions. For now, I only foresee a global option being necessary. The 2nd edition of his Mastering Book comes out in October (I own the first edition) so I’m curious to see what further thoughts he has towards the metering issues.

    I think it would be great to have an arrangement option for metering with the following (that could be changed mid-project just to see compare):
    () K – 20 (orchestral, hi-fi, home theatre, DVD, SACD)
    () K – 14 (typical home stereo, boombox, CD)
    () K – 12 (broadcast, mp3, compressed audio stream)
    () dBFS

    Plus, Podium would now need to integrate a test tone and noise generator of some sort (or, am I mistaken and it already has one?).

    I already love Podium’s meters (they show overs! not just clips…). You should contact Mr. Katz and get his feedback. I think if you integrate K-system, you will be far ahead of the game (at least, I don’t think any other DAW has done that)…

    JP

    September 15, 2007 at 18:35 #10832
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @jpleong wrote:

    The 2nd edition of his Mastering Book comes out in October (I own the first edition) so I’m curious to see what further thoughts he has towards the metering issues.

    Thanks for the heads up, I had no idea a second edition was on the way. I have the first edition as well. I will now look out for the second edition. Should be a very good read.

    September 15, 2007 at 18:50 #10833
    swindus
    Participant

    K-Metering in Podium would be a great addition! I have used it a lot in the past with the Visualizer Plugin from Nugen Audio and I think its a great way to mix.

    September 16, 2007 at 10:58 #10836
    Conquistador
    Participant

    I have not spent too much time with K- Metering…but I know Voxengos free Span has support for this built in…

    …of course building support for K-Metering into Podium would be interesting and definitely useful having read Bob Katz “Mastering Audio” book some time ago.

    I think if you integrate K-system, you will be far ahead of the game (at least, I don’t think any other DAW has done that)…

    JP

    I don’t know of any host that has K- Metering bulit in either. Even if there are hosts that have it, there are probably very few.

    September 19, 2007 at 13:08 #10866
    Conquistador
    Participant

    Frits if you are still looking for ideas there is an interesting thread over at Cubase.net with some nice links as well…

    http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=78678

    September 29, 2007 at 21:59 #10925
    jpleong
    Participant

    Even more ideas… I installed the Sonalksis Free-G plug-in the other day and have been using it to great effect. Then, I discovered it’s very customizable (after I printed my work, thankfully… playing around would have been very distracting and time consuming)! And it’s free!

    http://www.sonalksis.com/index.php?section_id=99

    Frits, are you able to implement metering options like this plug-in (and with the addition of K-System)?

    JP

    September 30, 2007 at 09:41 #10928
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    It may prove to consume too much CPU to offer advanced metering on every track, but it could be implemented as a per track option. Most users would probably only need it on the master track.

    September 30, 2007 at 15:54 #10930
    jpleong
    Participant

    You know… as long as this plug-in is free, the only thing I could ask for would be the K-System implemented across the board. No need to worry about extra work for yourself!

    Noticed that Wavelab is the only DAW program that has K-System native…

    JP

    October 1, 2007 at 11:01 #10933
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @jpleong wrote:

    Even more ideas… I installed the Sonalksis Free-G plug-in the other day and have been using it to great effect. Then, I discovered it’s very customizable (after I printed my work, thankfully… playing around would have been very distracting and time consuming)! And it’s free!

    JP

    Heh,

    Tell me about it! 🙂 it’s almost as if the Sonalksis developers are secret Podium users!

    As Frits is probably already aware I made a similar request to yours some time ago here…

    http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1041

    It may prove to consume too much CPU to offer advanced metering on every track, but it could be implemented as a per track option. Most users would probably only need it on the master track.

    K metering…
    A per track option sounds good. I do agree that it is likely to be used for the master track, but I would certainly like the per track option as well.

    December 15, 2007 at 19:14 #11438
    koolkeys
    Participant

    What ever happened to this? Is this still a possibility that this will be put into Podium? I think it would be fantastic personally.

    Brent

    December 16, 2007 at 03:09 #11439
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    It is not forgotten. I can’t say when I’ll get around to it. Currently there are quite a few features with higher priority on the todo list.

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