Conquistador.
DFusionHi all fellow Podians and Frits 😀
I have been using Podium more lately and i love the 2.05 update so far 8)
But i can’t figure out how to setup midi input quantize in Podium so that it does Quantize on the fly when i record.
Is this possible in Podium?
Thanks 😀
DFusionIs there anyone who can help me with this?
LiquidProj3ctHello DFusion, I’m new here. I’d like help you, but I’m learning podium now. If I read something about input quantize I’ll post here 😉
DFusion@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
Hello DFusion, I’m new here. I’d like help you, but I’m learning podium now. If I read something about input quantize I’ll post here 😉
Hi and Welcome to the world of Podium and thank you for trying to help me out 😀
I hope that you find something cause i don’t see it 😳
How do you like Podium so far?
Zynewave@DFusion wrote:
But i can’t figure out how to setup midi input quantize in Podium so that it does Quantize on the fly when i record.
Is this possible in Podium?
That’s currently not implemented. For future reference: How would you prefer this to work?
DFusion@Zynewave wrote:
@DFusion wrote:
But i can’t figure out how to setup midi input quantize in Podium so that it does Quantize on the fly when i record.
Is this possible in Podium?
That’s currently not implemented. For future reference: How would you prefer this to work?
Hi 😀
Glad i am not blind he-he.
When i think of input quantize it should work so that when you record some notes it would automatically quantize start and end times from the selected quantize snap setting.
But if you hold it over that ammount it should extend it to the next snap end point 😀
This makes it much faster to play real time when you have some ideas in your head.
I also miss a option to Quantize start and end of the selected notes at snap setting with one click.
Thanks for listening.
8)
ZynewaveI was thinking more about how you would want to activate and configure the input quantization. Should it be an option in the input mapping properties, a track option, or a global option somewhere?
Bear in mind that the snap setting you set in the edit toolbar is linked to the editor and not the track/sequence. You can have different editors with different snap values, so you can’t really use that setting for the input quantization. The on/off option for the input quantization should probably be accompanied by a dedicated quantize value setting.
druidI agree there should be seperate quantize settings.
And I would do it per … track. I think. Though part of me does think that’s a little more busy than required, in which case I would have it for the arrangement.
DFusion@Zynewave wrote:
I was thinking more about how you would want to activate and configure the input quantization. Should it be an option in the input mapping properties, a track option, or a global option somewhere?
Bear in mind that the snap setting you set in the edit toolbar is linked to the editor and not the track/sequence. You can have different editors with different snap values, so you can’t really use that setting for the input quantization. The on/off option for the input quantization should probably be accompanied by a dedicated quantize value setting.
Ahh i see 😀
A global one would be nice since different settings on each track would be confusing on a big project.
So maybe add a IQ button on the Transport after the punch in/out option followed by a Quantize menu after that button.
Then you will always see what the snap setting is and if it is enabled or not.
😀
Conquistador@druid wrote:
I agree there should be seperate quantize settings.
And I would do it per … track. I think. Though part of me does think that’s a little more busy than required, in which case I would have it for the arrangement.
I would say per track as well.
I might want separate quantize settings for different drum parts for instance. I think I would have very little need for a global setting. Offering both options is probably the best way forward.
Zynewave@Conquistador wrote:
@druid wrote:
I agree there should be seperate quantize settings.
And I would do it per … track. I think. Though part of me does think that’s a little more busy than required, in which case I would have it for the arrangement.
I would say per track as well.
I might want separate quantize settings for different drum parts for instance. I think I would have very little need for a global setting. Offering both options is probably the best way forward.
As I understand input quantization, it is quantization applied to MIDI input before it is recorded into a sequence. Aren’t you talking about automatic quantization applied to playback of already recorded sequences?
druidI wasn’t, just so you know. 🙂
Actually now you mention it, quantizing afterwards per track, and quantizing per arrangement or something I think is where I’d leave my preference.
roninIt would be nice to have a quantization (start&end note) while recording midi. I think this feature should be as easy as it is and a global setting should be enough. Per track settings are a potential source for confusion and don’t add very much use cases.(I guess there are not much people recording multiple midi tracks at once).
For playback quantization, of which conquistador seems to be talking of, per track settings can be useful. Personally I don’t need playback quantization unless it is possible to apply the “global record quantization” afterwards to an object/event in case I forgot to activate it.
how about a tri-state button close to the snap button at the arrangement window? (with a combobox for the quantization values)
first click, green: only playback is globally quantized
second click, yellow: recorded and played notes are quantized
third click, red: only recorded notes are quantized
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
[As I understand input quantization, it is quantization applied to MIDI input before it is recorded into a sequence. Aren’t you talking about automatic quantization applied to playback of already recorded sequences?
Hi Frits,
No I was referring to input quantisation. I still think global and track level options are the best way forward.
I mentioned the drum track example as I would for instance record a kick part on a separate track but would not want a 16 note quantise setting for that. The Kick track would be a whole or half note setting to do the trick there.
Hi hats might have a 8th or 16th note setting on a second track.
A simple Q button could be added to each track that one could switch off or on. That button might not even have to appear if a user does not want per track input quantise settings or if they have disabled per track input quantise globally.
As for Automatic playback quantisation per track that is actually also useful IMO. It is certainly more flexible than that global setting currently available.
I would certainly make use of both. I might simply be noodling around on the keyboard browsing sounds on a VSTi and play something I like on different tracks. I would not want to lose the per track quantise option at that point.
The performance is done but I would then have to switch back and forth between quantise settings on those tracks as currently a change on one track (quantise settings) is reflected immeadiately in other tracks.
Yes I could save a track template with input quantise settings all present and correct but…I dont always work with project templates and might start a new song or variation of it while still working in the same arrangement. If I create a new track those input quantise settings (as things stand now) would not be there.
I would also be interested in something like Swing and Strength settings for input quantise. Very much so please. 8) Being able to set those before hand would be great.
I like Dfusions idea for a button on the transport (I would add especially the large transport) maybe as he said with IQ on it or as I suggested for the tracks simply Q.
Ronins tri state idea is nice as well…
how about a tri-state button close to the snap button at the arrangement window? (with a combobox for the quantization values)
first click, green: only playback is globally quantized
second click, yellow: recorded and played notes are quantized
third click, red: only recorded notes are quantized
That idea might even be extended to the Q button I suggested for tracks for consistency. 🙂