Topic: Mixer gain and pan missing…

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  • #2237
    John-E34
    Participant

    Hi guys, I am struggling with the mixer settings defaulting to no controls.

    To explain, if I import a multi-track midi file, every track on the mixer is missing the gain and pan controls. I have to right click on every track (twice), to enable them.

    I would have thought a global setting to turn the controls on, or off, would be hidden somewhere, but I can’t find it.

    I must be missing the obvious, as I can see no reason for a mixer to default to a “no controls” state.

    I’m posting here, as I found Podium to be different enough, to warrant another “paid” try-out, but this mixer thing is really putting me off.

    Any clues?

    #18153
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Hi,

    If you are working with MIDI files, remember to check out this MIDI file tutorial for hints:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV1Eg7zToZw

    From your description, I assume that you are manually assigning instrument plugins to the MIDI tracks after you have imported the MIDI file. I just tried this, and I found that assigning the instrument doesn’t automatically enable the gain/pan on the track, as it really should. I’ll add that to the 2.30 release.

    #18156
    John-E34
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    I found that assigning the instrument doesn’t automatically enable the gain/pan on the track, as it really should. I’ll add that to the 2.30 release.

    Thank you.

    Would it be possible to add an option in “preferences” to assign the default mixer configuration, or even a check box to “enable” Gain, Pan, and VU meters by default?

    #18158
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @John-E34 wrote:

    Would it be possible to add an option in “preferences” to assign the default mixer configuration, or even a check box to “enable” Gain, Pan, and VU meters by default?

    Can you describe the scenario where you would need that?

    If a track is a MIDI track, then it would not be useful to have gain/pan/meter on the track, as these would do nothing. It’s only when you assign a sound generating source on the track, or add sound files to the track lane, that you would have a need for the mixer controls.

    #18161
    John-E34
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    @John-E34 wrote:

    If a track is a MIDI track, then it would not be useful to have gain/pan/meter on the track, as these would do nothing. It’s only when you assign a sound generating source on the track, or add sound files to the track lane, that you would have a need for the mixer controls.

    If it’s a midi track, I would assign a vsti anyway, otherwise, it would do nothing…

    Currently, I assign an instrument, then I have to enable the gain, pan etc, on every track, before I get a working mixer.

    I would expect a mixer to at least have the ability to mix – by default.

    Sorry for harping on the mixer thing, lets see how the next release goes…

    #18162
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @John-E34 wrote:

    If it’s a midi track, I would assign a vsti anyway, otherwise, it would do nothing…

    If you are working with multitimbral instruments, then you have separate MIDI channel mappings, which do not produce audio. Having faders on these tracks would be confusing.

    #18163
    John-E34
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    If you are working with multitimbral instruments, then you have separate MIDI channel mappings, which do not produce audio. Having faders on these tracks would be confusing.

    I often work with multitimbral instruments, and always need to adjust levels…

    But, it seems stupid to have a mixer, that by default, has no faders (as you put it), even Reaper defaults to a standard mixer layout.

    If I have to manually enable the VU, Volume, Pan etc, etc – for every track, every time I import a midi file, then I give up…

    #18165
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @John-E34 wrote:

    @Zynewave wrote:

    If you are working with multitimbral instruments, then you have separate MIDI channel mappings, which do not produce audio. Having faders on these tracks would be confusing.

    I often work with multitimbral instruments, and always need to adjust levels…

    Surely you don’t adjust the audio gain on MIDI only tracks? You would do that on the tracks that have the plugin audio output mapping assigned.

    But, it seems stupid to have a mixer, that by default, has no faders (as you put it), even Reaper defaults to a standard mixer layout.

    If I have to manually enable the VU, Volume, Pan etc, etc – for every track, every time I import a midi file, then I give up…

    The fader/meter will be there by default if you create new tracks. You encountered the problem that converting an imported MIDI only track to an audio track will not automatically enable the fader. As I said earlier, I’ll change that for the next release.

    #18166
    John-E34
    Participant

    After re-reading my post, my frustration has obviously come out… sorry.

    I’m happy to try the next few releases, and see if Podium works for me.

    #18167
    John-E34
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    [As I said earlier, I’ll change that for the next release.

    Thank you…

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