Topic: Mr. Z i have a few ?

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  • #909
    P. Rene
    Participant

    1st i wanna say wow the gui and everything is beauttiful and very relaxing honestly.

    Now question is this supports only 1 plugin per track? and second is does this software support per song/arrangement folders?

    Via folders i mean i do more audio then midi so say i have song “fi fo fum” and create audio tracks does it save ot its on subdirectory folder called fi fo fum? thanks

    #7367
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Hi,

    this supports only 1 plugin per track?

    Yes. A track in Podium is both used as a modular connection point between devices as well as having a track lane. You can hide track lanes in the hierarchy so that you can create a chain of plugin tracks that only occupy a single track lane in the arrangement.

    say i have song “fi fo fum” and create audio tracks does it save ot its on subdirectory folder called fi fo fum?

    Funny you should mention this. I’ve been thinking about implementing this in extension of the recent project start page feature. It’s not implemented currently, but I hope it will be ready in one of the two next releases.

    Frits

    #7368
    P. Rene
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Hi,

    this supports only 1 plugin per track?

    Yes. A track in Podium is both used as a modular connection point between devices as well as having a track lane. You can hide track lanes in the hierarchy so that you can create a chain of plugin tracks that only occupy a single track lane in the arrangement.

    Can you explain this method too me. Im used to using the likies of protools and Nuendo and need something for home, and im seriously lost.

    say i have song “fi fo fum” and create audio tracks does it save ot its on subdirectory folder called fi fo fum?

    Funny you should mention this. I’ve been thinking about implementing this in extension of the recent project start page feature. It’s not implemented currently, but I hope it will be ready in one of the two next releases.

    Yes this is a big dilema in the audio world.

    Frits

    #7370
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Can you explain this method too me. Im used to using the likies of protools and Nuendo and need something for home, and im seriously lost.

    Cut and paste from my reply to your post on kvr:

    If you are trying to add an instrument to a new track, you can drag the instrument mapping below the last track to create a new track. If you are trying to add an effect plugin to e.g. an instrument plugin track, the easiest way to do it is to drag the effect mapping onto the first ten pixels of the instrument track header (the part will be highlighted accordingly). This will wrap the instrument track in a new track with the effect plugin.

    #7371
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    If you are trying to add an effect plugin to e.g. an instrument plugin track, the easiest way to do it is to drag the effect mapping onto the first ten pixels of the instrument track header (the part will be highlighted accordingly). This will wrap the instrument track in a new track with the effect plugin.

    That’s too cool. I’ve had that happen by accident and I couldn’t relly figure out what I did to make it happen. Now I know and that will save a couple of steps for me every time I add a plugin.

    #7372
    P. Rene
    Participant

    im lost with the header and pixels part. say i wanted to add a compressor and delay to a lead vocals how would i add both at once.

    #7374
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    If you are trying to add an instrument to a new track, you can drag the instrument mapping below the last track to create a new track. If you are trying to add an effect plugin to e.g. an instrument plugin track, the easiest way to do it is to drag the effect mapping onto the first ten pixels of the instrument track header (the part will be highlighted accordingly). This will wrap the instrument track in a new track with the effect plugin.

    Wow! This has been under my nose all this time. 😯 This has to be the easiest way to get FX into Podium tracks, indeed even most hosts cannot import a plug and wrap it into another track by simply dragging an dropping an FX or instrument!!!

    I read one of the older Podium guides from start to finish but that was before the new small arrows appeared on a wrapped track. I am guessing this little gem is not documented yet or is it?

    This may be a bug but it may be a desirable bug…he he, let me explain…

    1.Create two new tracks
    2.Wrap the first in a track with the right click menu (use the group option) add an FX to this new group track.
    3. Drag another FX to the header area of the 2nd created track and let go.

    If you look at the mixer you should see track one now has a track that extends over it (contains the FX)

    Track two also should have a track that extends over it in the mixer..

    But…(unless I am doing something wrong here) by dragging an FX into the header area it creates a track that appears on the same level horizontally, but not above it.

    While wrapping an FX with the right click menu will create a track that clearly is placed above the initial track.

    Strangely both approaches produce tracks that look identical in the mixer.

    Frits you must know what I mean. πŸ˜‰

    Dragging an FX to a track will look like this in Podium…

    Group FX track > original track

    Wrapping a track with the right click menu creates this…

    Group FX track
    > Original track.

    Why is this?

    I really like the Group FX track > Original track idea as you could just keep dragging and get all your tracks on the same level, but still see the direction the audio stream is heading in…

    Group FX track 1 > …FX track two > …FX track three… I think this is my preferred way of seeing my FX tracks in Podium as they appear horizontally and do not even need to be hidden! Please do not change this behaviour if it is a bug! 8) Actually the arrows are pointing the other way in Podium, but this is just for this illustration. πŸ˜†

    Wrapping a track with the right click menu takes longer anyway. I suppose you cannot create a bounce track without the right click menu (unless there is another way) but when adding FX, the drag drop approach is so fast. I love the way it creates the track on the same horizontal level. Yet the arrows still show the correct flow of the audio stream. Great!

    Frits am I doing something wrong here? Or is it a good bug? πŸ˜†

    Sorry P. Rene I did not mean to hijack your thread. 8)

    If you have already created an arrangement within Podium the header part that Frits was talking about (that I can see) is a small vertical strip that will be highlighted it’s a bit thin (can this be made a bit wider Frits?) but if you drag it on the side of a track, left side, you will see this small thin vertical highlight, that will appear.

    When you see this, drop the compressor (if you want that first on the track) on this highlighted area it will create another track for you. Repeat this process with the delay.

    Frits is the real expert around here and will confirm or deny my advice but it works here.

    I have just noticed that when dragging an FX or instrument to a track header it will create an exact duplicate of the previous track so no need to even touch the track properties that pops up when using the right click group track option. Very smart and quick. Why did I not see this before!

    #7375
    P. Rene
    Participant

    ohhhhhhhhhhhh i see now thanks man thats crazy thin lil strip lol, but now can we re-arrange fx orders. Hey Zyne nice gui again implement the folder scheme sir.

    #7376
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Conquistador wrote:

    Group FX track > original track

    Wrapping a track with the right click menu creates this…

    Group FX track
    > Original track.

    Why is this?

    It’s really the same thing but the view is slightly modified. If you select the Group Fx track and hit h you can toggle between the two views. I use both views depending on what I’m doing.

    #7377
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @P. Rene wrote:

    im lost with the header and pixels part. say i wanted to add a compressor and delay to a lead vocals how would i add both at once.

    This is a recurring question, so I figured it would be worthwhile spending a few hours putting together a tutorial on the hierarchic track tree:

    http://www.zynewave.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorials:tracks:index

    It seems even seasoned Podium users could pick up a few hints here πŸ˜‰

    #7378
    P. Rene
    Participant

    hey thanks man. this should be stickied but soon as the folder implementation get squared away ill be a potential customer.

    #7379
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @P. Rene wrote:

    but soon as the folder implementation get squared away ill be a potential customer.

    What do you mean with folder implementation?

    Edit: Oh, you mean the sound file folders on disk. I thought you meant track folders.

    #7380
    P. Rene
    Participant

    yes sir very very important to us and i would love to find a software to grow old with and make proffessional records with.

    #7381
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @darcyb62 wrote:

    @Conquistador wrote:

    Group FX track > original track

    Wrapping a track with the right click menu creates this…

    Group FX track
    > Original track.

    Why is this?

    It’s really the same thing but the view is slightly modified. If you select the Group Fx track and hit h you can toggle between the two views. I use both views depending on what I’m doing.

    Thanks for the tip darcy. :mrgreen:

    I very rarely use keyboard shortcuts. I prefer to right click and pick an option on screen or click a button. Shortcuts can be very useful but it’s not usually my first choice.

    It is strange in a way that the quickest and easiest way to add FX or instruments in Podium IMHO, does not at least have a either a tooltip or info line that pops up when the mouse cursor is over the track header area in the actual track not just the Device Mapping Panel. This would have saved me so much time.

    Please consider adding this small but clearly important addition to Podium Frits. Thanks 8)

    This is a recurring question, so I figured it would be worthwhile spending a few hours putting together a tutorial on the hierarchic track tree:

    http://www.zynewave.com/wiki/doku.php?id=tutorials:tracks:index

    It seems even seasoned Podium users could pick up a few hints here Wink

    Thanks for taking the time to put the detailed write up together. :mrgreen:

    Sometimes it’s the little things that cause the most problems. I still think a tool tip should be added to the actual track header area.

    You might also consider adding a link to the WIKI and a separate link to this particular turtorial (considering the recent problems) to this Tutorial thread in the support forum…

    http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=360

    Please consider making the vertical track header area a bit wider. The ‘hit point’ is far too narrow for something so powerful and useful.

    #7382
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Please consider making the vertical track header area a bit wider. The ‘hit point’ is far too narrow for something so powerful and useful.

    You can do that already. Open the view menu -> profile properties -> tracks -> properties, and adjust the ‘vertical group bar width’ setting.

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