Conquistador.
ConquistadorHi there,
I am looking at a dual processor system either an AMD or Intel solution from Redsub. I mainly need it for video editing using Adobe Premier and the rest of the Adobe video collection.
Some of these products like Photoshop and Adobe Premier appear to have dual processor support. I think Cubase and Sonar also have dual Processor support and just wanted to know if Podium has such a feature.
It would be very useful to be able to share the processor load across two CPU’s instead of just one.
Also a new 64 bit version of windows is out anytime now any chance Podium will work on it?
Apparently it will run 32bit and 64bit apps but the installer for a number of existing software I read, may not work (not sure why) any way a recent review suggested most applciations had no issues at all.
A number of new Pc’s will now ship with the Windows x64 version and as I will likely get a basic base unit and a video audio dual system I just want to know what Podium can do on dual processors and with the new 64 bit windows.
Thanks 😉
ZynewaveI have not yet had the chance to test Podium on dual CPU systems, or on the Windows64 beta OS.
When running on dual CPU-systems, the engine (and thus all plugin processing) will only utilize one CPU. The Podium UI will however be able to run on the second CPU, so you can consume close to 100% on the engine CPU without causing the UI to get sluggish.
The Podium application uses only standard Windows functions, and the installer is using the Microsoft Windows Installer database, so there should be no problems running it on the new 64-bit OS.
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
I have not yet had the chance to test Podium on dual CPU systems, or on the Windows64 beta OS.
When running on dual CPU-systems, the engine (and thus all plugin processing) will only utilize one CPU. The Podium UI will however be able to run on the second CPU, so you can consume close to 100% on the engine CPU without causing the UI to get sluggish.
The Podium application uses only standard Windows functions, and the installer is using the Microsoft Windows Installer database, so there should be no problems running it on the new 64-bit OS.
Its actually quite strange really. The Podium gui is so well coded already! I was running a fairly heavy project with Stylus RMX which alone has a 1GB of RAM recommendation to run, anyway I glanced at the Podium CPU meter and to my astonishment it was on 90+% with no GUI slowdown at all!
The Podium install process is also very quick. The hard drive footprint is tiny for such a capable package. 🙂
Great news about the installer. Unless you beat me to it within the next 12 weeks I will be able to provide some feedback on windows x64 usage on a dual processor machine.
I suppose it would be nice for Podium to share the engine load or plug in processing onto a second processor maybe something for the future…8)
Maybe other users have already tried using Podium on x64 running on dual processors.
Thanks for the feedback anyway. 8)
duncanparsonsfrom what I recall, with multithreaded applications, the OS does some intelligent farming out of the process load across dual processors. I could be wrong…
DSP
Conquistador@duncanparsons wrote:
from what I recall, with multithreaded applications, the OS does some intelligent farming out of the process load across dual processors. I could be wrong…
DSP
Not sure but I think you are right. I wonder if Podium can operate as a multithreaded application? Maybe the gui split that Frits spoke of earlier in this thread falls into that category.
ZynewaveI wonder if Podium can operate as a multithreaded application? Maybe the gui split that Frits spoke of earlier in this thread falls into that category.
There are plenty of threads in Podium. The audio processing is one thread only, so that is why it cannot be split to multiple processors. There are other things in the engine that runs in separate threads, so that will benefit from multiple processors also. The GUI is also a separate thread.
ConquistadorYour way ahead of me on this stuff Frits! It sounds like Podium has some very clever programming under its surface, well done.
The structure that Podium sits on seems so clean and well coded from the start, I get the impression that you can easily continue to add features well into the future and keep the real time audio engine gapless for instance.
No glitches or gapping. This is one of my favourite features and it really helps my workflow.
I used to think only Live 4 could pull it off until I tried Podium. Live still does not even have PDC which Podium clearly has. I guess they are different packages anyway, but Podium thankfully is much cheaper and has the features I need.
The implementation of the new integrated list view is great, it can be resized as well.
Would I be right to assume you might provide integrated views for the other floating Windows as well, such as the Note Editor and Sound editor?
I noticed that Ctrl +L still brings up the floating view as normal, as does the view > New list window route as well. So it adds to rather than replace the previous floating view…great.
There seems to be plenty of space at the top right area of the arrange page for two more tabs 😉 I say two tabs because I assume the Sound editor and the automation window that pops when clicking on an automation event on a track, share the same view (correct me if I am wrong) otherwise three tabs might be better one for each view… Sound Editor, Automation and Note editor 🙂
Ah that’s it the Curve editor. Just remembered.
Either way keep it up Frits. Impressive stuff. 8)
ZynewaveI’ll start experimenting with inlining the sequence/sound editor windows. I don’t think it will be like the new list page. Rather I will try to put it into the arrangement editor as a new region type. Similar to how the mixer region works. But I may change my mind.
acousmodHi,
The new integrated List and the future editors regions are the way to a true floating / docking function for all the windows.
I don’t know what is specific to that and if it is possible within the actual architecture’s window of Podium, but it is the way that great companies have followed these last years (Macromedia for example).
The way that it was made inside Sonic Foundry’s products has been for me a model of simplicity and efficiency : any window can be float or docked, and the docked windows can be put side by side or stacked with tabs, all of this only with drag & drops and the control key to make them float.
It’s a dream with two monitors… and hard to make more flexible and easier to use.
I don’t say that Podium must do the same !, but it seems to be the kind of direction that he is going to take, and I’m happy with it 😉
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
I’ll start experimenting with inlining the sequence/sound editor windows. I don’t think it will be like the new list page. Rather I will try to put it into the arrangement editor as a new region type. Similar to how the mixer region works. But I may change my mind.
I like the idea of a new region type as well. I suppose the list view is different. If you do change your mind then judging buy the superb state of Podium now I am sure you will make the right decision. 😉
I agree with acousmod as well. 🙂