Topic: Organising 300 plugins ?
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February 2, 2006 at 22:28 #725
swayzakParticipanthi again
I’m trying to organise these in a sensible way e.g. into Instrument and Effect folders.
I notice that many of the plugins have a number of associated folders…
– the main instrument folder (with 100s of objects listed)
– often an “insert” folder with no objects listed
– a device mappings folderPresumably the insert folder should go into the root “Effects” folder ?
Where should the device mapping folder go – in the plugin’s root instrument folder ?
thanks
swayzak
February 2, 2006 at 23:11 #6081
ZynewaveKeymaster– the main instrument folder (with 100s of objects listed)
I assume this is the ‘Devices’ folder on the main project page. I recommend you create your ‘Instrument’ and ‘Effect’ subfolders under the ‘Devices’ folder.
– often an “insert” folder with no objects listed
Is that the exact name of the folder? Podium does not create an “insert” folder, unless it is related to a plugin.
a device mappings folder
If the plugin uses multiple mappings, as opposed to a single ‘insert’ mapping, then these mappings are placed in a folder named after the plugin. Put both this folder and the device definition object located right before, into the instrument/effect category folders you have created.
February 3, 2006 at 01:36 #6082
swayzakParticipantthanks
All device definitions (in Device Mappings dialogue) are set as “none” – so I have to go through each one manually and set it to appropriate plugin definition ?
Also, the TauPro default bank is crap – it just has 32 identical basic presets. So I moved all the fxb & fxp files I’ve downloaded off the net into the Taupro vst folder.
These are not imported into Podium – just the basic crap fxb. Is this a limitation of Taupro ?
There doesn’t appear to be a preset import facility in the Taupro gui – is it possible for me to still access these extra presets from Podium ?
swayzak
February 3, 2006 at 02:32 #6083
ZynewaveKeymasterAll device definitions (in Device Mappings dialogue) are set as “none” – so I have to go through each one manually and set it to appropriate plugin definition ?
If the definition is set to ‘none’ in the mappings properties, then that probably is because you have copy/pasted objects when rearranging them into folders. If you copy mappings and device definitions separately, then the link between them will be broken. I recommend you use drag & drop. This is explained in the guide: http://www.zynewave.com/guide/guide11_browser.htm#dragdrop
These are not imported into Podium – just the basic crap fxb. Is this a limitation of Taupro ?
No.
There doesn’t appear to be a preset import facility in the Taupro gui – is it possible for me to still access these extra presets from Podium ?
After you have set up a track with the Taupro, and activated monitoring to load the plugins, use the ‘new program library preset’ track menu. Enter the properties dialog for the new preset object in the preset panel, and use the ‘import’ button.
February 3, 2006 at 08:26 #6084
swayzakParticipantOh dear…then I’m going to have to do this all over again 🙁
I did try to drag the plugin folders into the “Instruments” folder I created but it didn’t seem to work. The dragged folder would just move to next to the “Instruments” folder, not actually INTO it…
February 3, 2006 at 09:41 #6085
ZynewaveKeymasterI did try to drag the plugin folders into the “Instruments” folder I created but it didn’t seem to work. The dragged folder would just move to next to the “Instruments” folder, not actually INTO it…
If you hold the control key while dragging, the object will be dropped into the object under the cursor.
February 3, 2006 at 13:57 #6089
swayzakParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
After you have set up a track with the Taupro, and activated monitoring to load the plugins, use the ‘new program library preset’ track menu. Enter the properties dialog for the new preset object in the preset panel, and use the ‘import’ button.
thanks
I did this for a few fxb banks but all that imports into the library folder is an object with no actual presets listed
e.g. “Vintage synth”
February 3, 2006 at 15:32 #6090
ZynewaveKeymasterI did this for a few fxb banks but all that imports into the library folder is an object with no actual presets listed
e.g. “Vintage synth”
I almost forgot: Instead of using the ‘new program library preset’ menu and then using the import button in the properties dialog, it is easier to use the ‘import library preset from file…’ menu.
If you import a fxb file, then the preset object will contain the whole bank. Assigning this bank preset to the plugin track will load the bank in the plugin. If the plugin editor has no way to select presets in a bank, then I recommend you use the ‘create library presets for all programs’ menu. This will create library presets for the individual programs in the bank. After this you can delete the bank preset you imported, and then assign the desired program library preset to the track.
February 3, 2006 at 16:06 #6092
swayzakParticipantExcellent Frits – that worked a treat !
Incidently, is there an easy way to rearrange the contents of my huge VST instrument folder ?
The plugins are not in strict alphabetical order (presumably relating to their order in the Steinberg VSTi folder) and it’s a bit confusing trying to locate particular plugins.
I tried a windows-style right click to see if they could be sorted by name but to no avail.
PS Also presets sometimes import with no name (either from fxb banks or from fxp files (all of which have the preset name in the file title). Is this related to the original preset programming ?
February 3, 2006 at 18:53 #6093
ZynewaveKeymasterIncidently, is there an easy way to rearrange the contents of my huge VST instrument folder ?
No, sorry. Drag & drop only.
Also presets sometimes import with no name (either from fxb banks or from fxp files (all of which have the preset name in the file title). Is this related to the original preset programming ?
fxb files do not have an internal bank name, so the imported bank object is named after the filename.
fxp files have an internal VST program name, which Podium uses for the preset object, rather than the filename.February 3, 2006 at 20:10 #6094
swayzakParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
Incidently, is there an easy way to rearrange the contents of my huge VST instrument folder ?
No, sorry. Drag & drop only.
Also presets sometimes import with no name (either from fxb banks or from fxp files (all of which have the preset name in the file title). Is this related to the original preset programming ?
fxb files do not have an internal bank name, so the imported bank object is named after the filename.
fxp files have an internal VST program name, which Podium uses for the preset object, rather than the filename.I guess the fxp/fxb files that, after importing, have no specific identifying name have not been given an internal VST program name correctly ?
February 3, 2006 at 21:23 #6095
ZynewaveKeymasterI guess the fxp/fxb files that, after importing, have no specific identifying name have not been given an internal VST program name correctly ?
Yes
February 16, 2006 at 04:14 #6130
francoisParticipantquote:”I almost forgot: Instead of using the ‘new program library preset’ menu and then using the import button in the properties dialog, it is easier to use the ‘import library preset from file…‘ menu.”
I cant find how to do that 🙁 , where are these commands?
I am trying to better organize my project windows.
Thanks for help
FrancoisFebruary 16, 2006 at 11:01 #6132
ZynewaveKeymasterI cant find how to do that , where are these commands?
If you right click on the header of a track with a plugin mapping, they are in the ‘plugin preset’ submenu. You can also find the menus in the track inspector preset panel, by clicking on the arrow button at the right edge of the preset page header.
February 16, 2006 at 11:48 #6133
francoisParticipant😀 ok , i’ve got it thanks
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