Topic: Podium 2.0

@Klemperer wrote:

1 zGrid as far as I understand and what is said about it here would be LOVELY!

2 whatever the in-the-know-users want:-)). I still think hosts that implemented timestretching did it by buying this stuff that made it into Ableton live, EnergyXT and many more hosts?

With Tracktion 3 and Live 6 yes. I think they both use the same version of the “Elastique” algo.

If that would be true I asked myself why don’t they try to do it for themselves, is it VERY difficult?

I would guess yes.

Especially considering the prices charged for the algos. For devs to buy at that price it is likely not a simple task.
But it appears to be one that Frits is keen to try to do himself to bring his costs down. He might just pull it off. If the zReverb is anything to go by he can handle first time efforts very well indeed. Lets see.

So well, I have no clue here. A hard to do version that would take much time for Frits and would even fall short compared to other hosts would maybe not persuade enough users of the future.

“roll my own” is a quote from Frits so I guess he may also able to “improve his own” creation over time. Likely easier for him than a 3rd party option.

But then a good timestretching would be nice and would attract people (even if I get the impression that sometimes at KVR people really think a host should have it, and around 50% never seem to use it). I like timestretching much for experiments, and for now use, for loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong stretching a freeware called “paulstretch” (makes strange noises, and sometimes choir-like pads who last 1 hour out of a 3′ piece 😀 ). It’s not vst, you just render your settings and put them into Podium as wavs.

I heard of Paul stretch, the z synth guy I think. Maybe Frits should talk to him.

Definately zGrid….please..
I don’t think Frits has mentioned it for a while though, so it’s more in hope than expectation.

Mart.

Yep…it’s official there is a pattern developing here 😆

@Pigini wrote:

I don’t see why the step from v.1.99 to v.2.00 should be any bigger than others adding just a 0.01 step to the figure.

Frits is using the version numbering the way it is meant to be, unlike some companies showing big shiny version numbers just for marketing reasons while others might just skip releasing the minor steps in order to charge for the major update later on.

If one is to judge the major improvements of v.2.00 one day, it should be compared with v.1.00, not with 1.99, because v.1.00 and v.2.00 are major releases. 1.99 to 2.00 is only a cent in the version system.

As we have seen in the past those cent improvements are sometimes smaller, sometimes bigger, because some feats need to be there before others can be added.
I don’t think it would make much sense, if Frits spared some new feats just to make it fall on the v.2.00 release, instead of working steadily onwards.

I agree it is not necessary but it is most definitely “expected”. The market Podium is in, is surrounded by other similar applications that will surely have at least one major addition to a v.2, or v.3 e.t.c release.

Necessary? No. Expected? Yes.

People will still demo and buy Podium, major v.2 features or not, but without one major feature for v.2 Frits IMO will miss out on a very good marketing opportunity to draw more attention to Podium.

Marketing is simply part of the whole Podium universe. No way around it. Same for just about every product out there.

Any and every opportunity to get Podium in front of as many people as possible (within reason) must surely be explored. Other competing products adopt the same approach with differences here and there.

Tracktion, EXT2, FL, Project 5 v.2.5 e.t.c all fall within or are very close to Podiums price point. It would be strange to not at least have a single major addition to Podium v.2. I would classify the zGrid as pretty major.

Frits himself said…

“Any suggestions for the V2 killer feature?” here..

http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1211&highlight=wondering

Perhaps he now feels there is no need. Maybe. But as I said earlier all competing products have at least one major feature added to a major version upgrade.

Usually a few at least or even several in some cases. I don’t think it’s about necessity but more about what is expected by Podium’s target market.

I would think Frits might consider 1 or 2 major features. Which should be fine as he does add features on a regular basis. But I would not say enough features are added regularly to totally do away with a key or major v.2 feature. 😉