Topic: Podium bug
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Sardaukar.
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May 29, 2004 at 12:51 #172
SardaukarParticipantHi Fritz,
Podium crashed me, whilst i was playing about:
I get this crash signature:
AppName: podium.exe AppVer: 1.0.0.0 ModName: podium.exe
ModVer: 1.0.0.0 Offset: 000fb9f7…to crash Podium, all I did was enable the metronome and press play, after a few seconds, i got this crash…The podium gui still functions correctly…but i got the above crash window pop-up.
Everytime I start Podium up after this crash I get the error:
“Could not start 48000hz audio streaming”.
Its fine after I reboot.
My podium midi/audio report
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 29/05/2004 13:45:52 – 29/05/2004 13:47:36ASIO device: SB Audigy ASIO [B800]
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 48000
– Current sample rate: 48000
– Input channels: 18 (111111111111111111)
– Output channels: 14 (11111111111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 0/0, 2400End of report
May 29, 2004 at 12:56 #3299SardaukarParticipantIn the error report contents, after crash i get the following:
Code: 0x0
Flags: 0x0
Record: 0x0
Address: 0x00000000004fb9f7May 29, 2004 at 13:02 #3300
ZynewaveKeymaster– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 0/0, 2400
The driver reports I/O latencies of 0. These should at least be the size of the buffer, which is 2400. If this is the cause for the crash it should be easy to fix. I’ll just have to check that the I/O latencies are not smaller than the buffer size.
May 29, 2004 at 13:11 #3302SardaukarParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 0/0, 2400
The driver reports I/O latencies of 0. These should at least be the size of the buffer, which is 2400. If this is the cause for the crash it should be easy to fix. I’ll just have to check that the I/O latencies are not smaller than the buffer size.
the the latency of 0 a valid value? I ask, cause i hope it didnt end up like this as a consequence of the crash. I’ll check if it was this value before the crash, after a clean reboot
May 29, 2004 at 13:16 #3303SardaukarParticipantOn a different issue.
After creating a fresh arrangement. If I setup a map to a VST/I plugin in one of my tracks, the ‘edit’ button doesnt appear. I have to press play, before it does. Is the plug-in getting loaded on play…and not on setting assigning a map?
May 29, 2004 at 13:21 #3304ZynewaveKeymasterIf I setup a map to a VST/I plugin in one of my tracks, the ‘edit’ button doesnt appear. I have to press play, before it does. Is the plug-in getting loaded on play…and not on setting assigning a map?
Insert plugins are only loaded when monitoring of the arrangement is activated. That’s the lower leftmost power button (shift+space).
May 29, 2004 at 13:26 #3305SardaukarParticipantFritz…After a clean reboot…i have to following report:
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 29/05/2004 14:22:28 – 29/05/2004 14:23:12ASIO device: SB Audigy ASIO [B800]
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 48000
– Current sample rate: 48000
– Input channels: 18 (111111111111111111)
– Output channels: 14 (11111111111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 2500/2400, 2400
– ASIO sample types: 16, 16ASIO driver status:
– ASIO sample position gaps: 1 (2400)Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 1End of report
May 29, 2004 at 13:31 #3306SardaukarParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
If I setup a map to a VST/I plugin in one of my tracks, the ‘edit’ button doesnt appear. I have to press play, before it does. Is the plug-in getting loaded on play…and not on setting assigning a map?
Insert plugins are only loaded when monitoring of the arrangement is activated. That’s the lower leftmost power button (shift+space).
Ah, I see. Is this button, some sort of panic button then? Is there any reason why one would want to flick it off…unless they were having some problem with audio feedback etc…?
May 29, 2004 at 14:22 #3309ZynewaveKeymasterI wouldn’t call it a panic button. It loads insert plugins and enables MIDI and audio inputs. It’s a preparation for playback. Only one arrangement at the time can be monitored, so if you enter another arrangement and activate monitoring there, the previous arrangement will be made inactive, causing insert plugins to be unloaded etc.
May 29, 2004 at 16:30 #3310SardaukarParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
I wouldn’t call it a panic button. It loads insert plugins and enables MIDI and audio inputs. It’s a preparation for playback. Only one arrangement at the time can be monitored, so if you enter another arrangement and activate monitoring there, the previous arrangement will be made inactive, causing insert plugins to be unloaded etc.
I understand the need for a button, to select the active arrangement…but is it really necessery to unload the plug-ins when switched off? It means you cant have 2 arrangements open, and switch between them, without losing plug-in settings. I know its an unlikely thing to do, but it is a possibilty. Its not nice, unloading the plug-ins, as the settings for them plug-ins are lost.
May 29, 2004 at 16:55 #3311ZynewaveKeymasterIt means you cant have 2 arrangements open, and switch between them, without losing plug-in settings
If you want to store changes to plugin settings with your arrangement, you create library presets on the tracks with the plugin mappings, and select the ‘sync’ option on the track (sync is selected by default). This way Podium will keep the library presets updated with changes made in the plugins. When monitoring is deactivated, the library presets will be updated with the settings in the plugin before the plugin is unloaded.
Loading/unloading of insert plugins for the active arrangement, is done for performance reasons. Assuming that your project contains 12 arrangements for your next top-40 album, if all plugins used in all arrangements were to be loaded always, it could mean that thousands of plugins would need to be allocated in memory. So you could say that activating monitoring of an arrangement is a kind of song-load.
May 31, 2004 at 23:10 #3348SardaukarParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
It means you cant have 2 arrangements open, and switch between them, without losing plug-in settings
If you want to store changes to plugin settings with your arrangement, you create library presets on the tracks with the plugin mappings, and select the ‘sync’ option on the track (sync is selected by default). This way Podium will keep the library presets updated with changes made in the plugins. When monitoring is deactivated, the library presets will be updated with the settings in the plugin before the plugin is unloaded.
Loading/unloading of insert plugins for the active arrangement, is done for performance reasons. Assuming that your project contains 12 arrangements for your next top-40 album, if all plugins used in all arrangements were to be loaded always, it could mean that thousands of plugins would need to be allocated in memory. So you could say that activating monitoring of an arrangement is a kind of song-load.
Ok, I understand now :D. Thanks
May 31, 2004 at 23:25 #3349SardaukarParticipantYou may like a clean bug report on my original problem:
I boot up windows XP from fresh.
I start Podium.
I have following log file:
Podium audio manager status report
Log period: 01/06/2004 00:13:13 – 01/06/2004 00:13:30ASIO device: SB Audigy ASIO [B800]
– Supported clock sources: Internal
– Current clock source: Internal
– Supported sample rates: 48000
– Current sample rate: 48000
– Input channels: 18 (111111111111111111)
– Output channels: 14 (11111111111111)
– Input/Output latency, buffer size: 2500/2400, 2400
– ASIO sample types: 16, 16ASIO driver status:
– ASIO sample position gaps: 1 (2400)Audio stream buffer errors:
– Output buffer skip count: 1
I create a new arrangment.
I go into that arrangment.
I turn metronome on.
I press play.
several seconds later (ranges from 2 – 10 seconds).
I get following crash info:AppName: podium.exe AppVer: 1.0.0.0 ModName: podium.exe
ModVer: 1.0.0.0 Offset: 00139995Code: 0xc0000005
Flags 0x0
Record: 0x0.
Address 0x0000000000539995Podium GUI is still in ‘play mode’ in background. I click to close the debug info and thus the application. Podium then exits. As mentioned. This is a report straight after a fresh boot of XP.
Hope this helps.
Dan.May 31, 2004 at 23:31 #3350SardaukarParticipantPodium seems rock solid, except for this problem, which occurs when Im using the metronome.
May 31, 2004 at 23:43 #3351ZynewaveKeymasterDoes the metronome work (outputs sound) up until the crash? Is there any sound distortion at the moment the crash happens? Have you changed the default configuration for the metronome in the preferences dialog?
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