Doug B.
Zynewavefrits i cand find the ini. been looking and even serched for them.
That’s probably because your Windows Explorer is set to hide system folders (which is the default setting). Instead, just open Podium, use the ‘Save Complete Setup…’ command in the Setup menu, and save the setup file in your My Documents folder or anywhere where you can access it.
hitman8081sent frits.
hitman8081@Zynewave wrote:
i have to wait a secong or two before each note shows up in the sequencer and another to hear it
There should be no noticeable delay at all before the note is drawn on the display. Just to make sure; I assume you are using the mouse and not a MIDI keyboard to input the notes. If you use MIDI input to record notes, then the notes are only drawn once the note-off is received. The delay before the note is auditioned should be no longer than what the latency of your soundcard is set to.
Which Windows version are you using?
Has it always been like this?
What is the Podium CPU usage percent when you experience the delay?
Is this PC also the one you use for internet? I ask because I’ve previously received reports of e.g. slow saves which was caused by a background spyware detection program. If you have any of these programs installed (spyware, antivirus etc.), then try temporarily disabling them to see if it affects Podium performance.
There may be other programs running in the background that can cause Podium to be slow. To verify this, bring up the Windows Task Manager and see if there are any processes that hog the CPU. Also go to the performance page and check the CPU usage history while you are doing the editing in Podium.
yes this is my only pc. i have/had zonealarm, live 365 icon, aim, and msn icons running in the background. its definitly a problem with having the loop mode on.
i did a speed test to how how far the notes are laging behind by clicking ten notes ten time for ten seconds. loop off timeing is fine. i then did the same exact test with loop on and the notes took three more seconds to appear after the ten seconds were up giving a 3 second lag. also highlighting notes with the select tool, podium seems to lag with both loop of and loop on.
hitman8081frits, i did a forum serch for the word lag and slow and found this thread:
http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=466&highlight=slow
also you said in another thread:
Podium is using transparency effects extensively, which does require a graphics card with decent hardware accelerated transparency. I’ve tried Podium on a machine with onboard graphics card, and it does make the Podium UI slow. On my new machine I have a cheap ATI X300 which makes Podium fly. The difference is huge.
i didnt know this when i bought it. could this be why the guis so slow? it might be a good idea to create a version version for those that have only average cards. i dont think its too far away to say that many people who have tried podium in demo version were put off by how slow podium moves and probaly invested in a good soundcard but use there inbuilt video card because like me they only produce music on there pcs and dont play games or do anything else on there pcs that requires a fast video card.
tbh podium is the first host ive used that requires a good videocard.
but this may be why podiums so slow for me and others.
Zynewavei did a forum serch for the word lag and slow and found this thread:
The problem described in the thread you refer to has been solved a few months back, by an extensive optimization of the drawing routines.
But I think you’re right, that it has to do with the graphics card performance on your system. I just tried your project and your setup file on my old P3 800 MHz internet machine (old ATI card with 32 MB video memory), and there are no speed problems here. I think your problem is not so much that your video card is slow, but more that the video memory is filled up. The sudden slowdown you experience likely happens because Podium needs to draw something that doesn’t fit in the remaining free video memory, and thus Windows has to do the rendering in system memory. When you activate loop, Podium draws the loop range with a highlighted color, which could explain why toggling loop mode affects video performance. You can verify this by scrolling the timeline so that the loop range is not visible, and check if note editing still is slow.
If your PC has an onboard video card that shares the system memory, you may be able to configure the amount of memory that the video card can access. Check the display properties control panel, settings page, advanced button, and see if you can find information on how much video memory you have. If not in the display control panel, then maybe there is a setting in the BIOS that controls video memory size. But don’t mess with the BIOS, unless you know what you are doing.
Other things you can try: Quit any unneeded running applications, as these may occupy video memory even if they are not currently shown on the display. You can also try to reduce the display resolution, as this will require less video memory.
hitman8081funny thing frits, ive always had my screen resolution to 1152 by 864 and just recently(about a week after installing podium) i chnaged my screen resolution to 1280 by 1024, which was the highest my monitor could go. i didnt realize that doing that would slow podiums performance big time. podiums still lags when using the select tool and other grab functions. but im pretty satisfied now 🙂
hitman8081hey frits, i just did a check of my video card and these are the specs,
chip type: intel[r]82845g graphics controller
dac type: internal
memory size: 64mb
adaptor string: intel[r]82845g/gl/ge/pe/gv graphics
bios information: intel video bios
screen refresh rate 60 hertz (goes up to 70 hertz)
hardware acceleration: full
dpi setting: normal size (96 dpi)
color quality: highest (32 bit)
Zynewave1152 by 864 and just recently(about a week after installing podium) i chnaged my screen resolution to 1280 by 1024
1152*864*4 bytes (32 bit colors) ~= 4 MB video memory.
1280*1024*4 bytes ~= 5.2 MB.
Still, if you have 64 MB video memory, that should be plenty, also for 1280*1024. There must be some utilities/applications on your system that is locking up a large portion of the video memory. Plugin editors can also lock video memory. Until a few years ago I worked happily with a laptop having 16MB video memory and using 1400*1050 32bit resolution.
hitman8081so what can i do to fix this frits? HOW do i find which programs are taking up video memory? what kind of plugin editor are you refering to? thanx frits.
ZynewaveI don’t know of any tools that can tell you how much video memory a program is using. You can try going back to 1280*1024 to force Podium being slow, and then one by one quit any running applications/tools until you quit one that causes Podium to become fast again. That may or may not work. Plugins may allocate bitmaps in video memory so that they can be rendered quickly. I haven’t encountered any plugins where this is a problem though.
Doug B@hitman8081 wrote:
so what can i do to fix this frits? HOW do i find which programs are taking up video memory? what kind of plugin editor are you refering to? thanx frits.
Are you running any kind of background tasks like a virus checker, defragger,etc?
hitman8081i removed all background tasks to see if it makes a diffrence and it doesnt.
i though podium was fixed well enough but it seems that as i add more cpu podium just slows to a snails pace. you said something is eating all my video memory? i downloaded nero unltra edition the other day and noticed that after uninstalling the demo, almost all my image files and other media files were completely taken over by nero. i removed all the registry info pertaining to nero and low and behold my files are still fucked up with nero.
the only way to play certain image files is to force it to play with windows media player? could this be the problem? should i try a system restore? reformat? frits your right, somethings NOT right. 64 megs should be fing plenty. im gonna have to look more into this issue.
Doug B@hitman8081 wrote:
i removed all background tasks to see if it makes a diffrence and it doesnt.
Hmm.. maybe you should try one or all of the following:
virus check, defrag, restore from backup or as a last chance, try a full windows reinstall.
Don’t know what else to suggest, sorry.
ZynewaveIt sounds like a system restore or a Windows reinstall is a good idea. Another good advise is to check that you have the latest video driver installed. In the past I’ve experienced huge improvements in graphics performance just by updating the video driver.
Doug B@Zynewave wrote:
It sounds like a system restore or a Windows reinstall is a good idea. Another good advise is to check that you have the latest video driver installed. In the past I’ve experienced huge improvements in graphics performance just by updating the video driver.
After a certain point, you just waste time trying to find the cause of a computer problem and it really is quicker to just re-install.
Another good idea is to use an image backup/restore like Ghost that allows you to take a snapshot of your partition/hard drive and store it on cd/dvd or hard drive. Far quicker (15-20 minutes) than doing a manual windows re-install and the Ghost image is your setup, not generic windows.
As for the drivers, I’ve always found that the drivers from the card manufacturer (ATI, NVIDIA, etc) are usually more efficient and bug free than the generic windows drivers.