Topic: Podium taking longer to shut down

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  • #571
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Since 1.32 Podium has been taking significantly longer to shut down. From around 3-4 seconds to around 14-15 seconds. Anyone else experienced the same? Frits?

    Mart.

    #4989
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    I have not experienced this.

    Just to see if I understood you right: With the exact same project file loaded, v1.31 took 4 seconds and v1.32 took 15 seconds to quit?

    Does it take equally long if you use the ‘new project’ menu?

    How big is your project file? Are there many arrangements in it?

    #4990
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Just to see if I understood you right: With the exact same project file loaded, v1.31 took 4 seconds and v1.32 took 15 seconds to quit?

    Correct.

    Does it take equally long if you use the ‘new project’ menu?

    Yes. It makes no difference if I start a new project or when any other project is loaded.

    Mart.

    #4991
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    It makes no difference if I start a new project or when any other project is loaded.

    So, even if your current project is completely blank, Podium is still taking 15 seconds to quit? 😯

    This should take only a split second. What are your PC specs? Does the Podium window stay open during the 15 seconds? If you unselect all your MIDI and audio interfaces in the Podium interface dialog, does it still take this long?

    #4992
    kingtubby
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    So, even if your current project is completely blank, Podium is still taking 15 seconds to quit? 😯

    Yes…I tried unselecting all audio/midi interfaces and still no difference.

    Specs are:
    WinXP Home SP1
    P4 3ghz
    512mb ram
    Terratec EWX 24/96

    Mart.

    #4993
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Does the Podium window stay open during the 15 seconds?

    P4 3ghz

    Is that a hyperthread edition? And if so, is hyperthreading enabled/disabled in the BIOS?

    #4994
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Does the Podium window stay open during the 15 seconds?

    Yes.

    Is that a hyperthread edition? And if so, is hyperthreading enabled/disabled in the BIOS?

    Yes – and hyperthreading is enabled.

    Mart.

    #4995
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Suggestion:
    Locate your Podium.ini setup file (location is described in the setup section of the guide). Make a backup copy of it. Delete Podium.ini. Start Podium. You should see an empty project and the project wizard pops up. Close Podium before doing anything. Is quitting still taking an eternity? If not, email me your Podium.ini file.

    If this fails, then I would suggest as an experiment to disable hyperthreading in your BIOS. I have recently come across posts that describe how hyperthreading can be problematic on some systems. A good example is this:

    http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35831

    #4996
    kingtubby
    Participant

    OK, I tried both your suggestions and another one in the link you posted and still no joy. I don’t recall any changes to my system that coincided with the installation of 1.32 either.

    Mart.

    #4997
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    I’m running out of ideas πŸ™

    To eliminate possibilites of viruses, and other such things, could you try to revert to Podium 1.31, and check if that speeds up things?

    Are there any other situations where Podium is slower than usual?
    Are there any other applications on your PC that takes this long to quit?

    Quitting Podium without any project loaded, should be almost instantaneous. On my old 800MHz PC it takes about 1 second.

    #4998
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Are there any other situations where Podium is slower than usual?
    Are there any other applications on your PC that takes this long to quit?

    Podium is very well behaved otherwise πŸ™‚ but I haven’t had this problem with any other apps.
    I’m very careful when it comes to keeping my PC virus and spyware free, but I suppose you can never discount these things. I’ll try reverting to 1.31 to see what happens.

    Mart.

    Edit: I just had a look and I no longer have a copy of 1.31 – can you link me to a copy Frits?

    #4999
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    1.31 is now reuploaded. The link is in the VIP lounge.

    #5000
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Right – I uninstalled the current version and went back to 1.31 and there is a marked improvement in shut down time – down to 5-6 secs – but having read in your post that shut down should be almost instantaneous I decided to investigate further, so I had a poke around in the task manager, looking at the running processes. I noticed that sometimes Podium was shown to be still running as a process even though the app window had closed. Anyway, after a bit of trial error I found that when I shut down SpyBot, which I usually have running in the background (system-tray) I can get Podium to shut down in 1-2 seconds πŸ˜€
    Subsequently I have reinstalled 1.34 and everything is fine 8)
    I’m afraid I don’t know enough about the finer details of the inner workings of XP but SpyBot (specifically the ‘teatimer.exe’ background process) seems to be causing some sort of conflict.

    Mart.

    #5001
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    The cause of the delay seem to have been found then. That’s good to know πŸ™‚

    #5006
    kingtubby
    Participant

    Note to self: I must remember to recognize the great customer support @zynewave. So here goes:

    Thanks Frits, for helping me find a way through this tricky little problem πŸ˜€

    Mart.

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