Topic: Preview 2.24: Embedded plugin editors in the rack

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  • December 27, 2009 at 11:54 #17163
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    I finally took a look at beta 7 today, and apart from the fact that it’s still awesome, I’m not exactly lovestruck by the new mixer options buttons. 😉 I’m not a fan of such vowel-omitting words… To me, “src” will always be “sample rate conversion” first and foremost!

    Thinking about an alternative solution:
    Wouldn’t it be possible to drop the gradient background from the icons, just leaving the ring and letters on a transparent background – then they could be reliably dyed with any and all colors. As I said before, it’s not just a problem affecting the mixer buttons… Take a look at the rack selectors with the Nightfall theme, for example:

    About the photographic icons (XLR/MIDI connectors, headphones) – did you try to dye them completely with the text color? I don’t think losing little details in lighting would make those little images less discernable, or pretty. Maybe it doesn’t work for the different cable connectors… that’d probably have to be sacrificed. :-k

    January 3, 2010 at 23:52 #17196
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Beta8 is up.

    I’m about half way through fixing the bugs reported in the 2.23 release topic. To mix up the tedious work of bug-fixing I took time off to make some nice changes to the UI coloring options:

    Changed the layout in the Colors setup dialog and added new settings for button and slider knob colors.

    The track inspector color picker can now be used to adjust Podium UI colors. Use the color picker right-click menu to select among the different UI colors. The available options matches the colors found in the Colors setup dialog.

    Furthermore there are some changes to the “new effect” buttons in the mixer. I also made some UI speed optimizations on color change and resizing. Let me know if you find issues with color changes and UI resizing.

    January 4, 2010 at 08:20 #17197
    LiquidProj3ct
    Participant

    Cool, now its easier make your own themes. I think there is a small conflict with old colors setup windows though. It had a checkbox to enable/disable that color customization, I don’t miss it, however I *think* I had “Inactive Selection Fill” unckecked, and now I cannot change it from color picker:

    Best regards

    January 4, 2010 at 12:49 #17199
    Malcolm Jacobson
    Participant

    Hi Frits,

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Let me know if you find issues with color changes and UI resizing.

    Here’s how beta 8 looks on my XP machine:

    The selected track header displays as black, so I can’t read the text.
    The show/hide buttons in the mixer all appear white when not active.
    The tick box in the Inspector appears white when selected.

    Cheers,

    Malcolm.

    January 4, 2010 at 13:15 #17200
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Thanks. The new beta9 should fix these color issues.

    @Malcolm: You can load the “Colors – Default” setup to get the old colors back.

    January 4, 2010 at 13:30 #17201
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    No display problems here on Vista. Separate button and slider colors is a nice idea!

    – In my opinion, the new effect buttons are attracting a little too much attention. But no worries… I’ll get used to it – I guess it’s a touch screen thing again. 😉

    – I don’t see the point of the rectangle around the gain fader. If the size of slider/fader hitboxes is not obvious enough from the overlay box that appears when you hover the cursor over it, then all sliders would need a bounding box too (this is not a suggestion! :P). The problem I have with it is that the bottom edge will go right through the level markings, depending on mixer size.

    – It seems the “live” color selection on the color picker constantly writes to the hard disk (podium.ini?) – I can even hear it scratching away! 😯
    Maybe the color selections could stay in memory and could only be written to file when you leave the UI color selection, by switching back to track color selection.

    January 4, 2010 at 13:44 #17202
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    – I don’t see the point of the rectangle around the gain fader. If the size of slider/fader hitboxes is not obvious enough from the overlay box that appears when you hover the cursor over it, then all sliders would need a bounding box too (this is not a suggestion! :P). The problem I have with it is that the bottom edge will go right through the level markings, depending on mixer size.

    I’ll remove the frames from the gain faders. How about leaving them on the parameter track faders? The reason I tried adding the frames was to try to emphasize the fader area. The gain fader is bordering up to the meter which helps with the separation.

    – It seems the “live” color selection on the color picker constantly writes to the hard disk (podium.ini?) – I can even hear it scratching away! 😯
    Maybe the color selections could stay in memory and could only be written to file when you leave the UI color selection, by switching back to track color selection.

    That must be because you have a track background image in the project properties? The original image is reloaded to apply the panel dye coloring. To avoid this Podium would need to keep two copies of the image in memory, which I think is a waste.

    January 4, 2010 at 20:29 #17205
    H-man
    Participant

    Happy New Year Frits.

    Nice work on the enhancements to the colour options. It’s fun and looks good (or terrible depending on the colours one chooses :P)

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record, would this be a good time to add the option of different colours (ie. lighter colours for darker themems) for the markers on the level meters?

    January 4, 2010 at 20:46 #17206
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    Well, it’s your call whether you want to keep the fader frame! 😀
    I wouldn’t have a problem with it, apart from that it can potentially clash with the dB markings and I don’t think it’s really needed to find out about the fader’s hitbox size (besides, it looks like the last few pixels on each side of the frame are not inside the fader hitbox area).

    @Zynewave wrote:

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    – It seems the “live” color selection on the color picker constantly writes to the hard disk (podium.ini?) – I can even hear it scratching away! 😯
    Maybe the color selections could stay in memory and could only be written to file when you leave the UI color selection, by switching back to track color selection.

    That must be because you have a track background image in the project properties? The original image is reloaded to apply the panel dye coloring. To avoid this Podium would need to keep two copies of the image in memory, which I think is a waste.

    Forget about it… It’s a known problem with the graphics card I had to put in yesterday because the old one died (that’s the third one for ATi for me). Nothing to do with hard disks! 🙂
    What remains is that using the color picker for this purpose produces massive CPU use.
    I didn’t use a background image before, but I gave it a try just now. It updates images dyed with the timeline fill color with a little delay – since you said it has to reload the image, that’s probably depending on the image dimensions or file size, right?

    I’ve got a suggestion for the mixer zoom slider: Since it zooms in little steps, like the other zoom sliders too, it’d be nice to be able to use it with the scroll-wheel in the same way.

    January 5, 2010 at 00:38 #17210
    UncleAge
    Participant

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    I’ve got a suggestion for the mixer zoom slider: Since it zooms in little steps, like the other zoom sliders too, it’d be nice to be able to use it with the scroll-wheel in the same way.

    It would be nice as well if the zoom took things all the way down until you had a narrow strip that was just a pixel or three wider than the fader. This would help accommodate larger projects when the track count is pretty high, you know, a little less scrolling around. Not necessary really, just a suggestion…

    January 5, 2010 at 04:54 #17212
    UncleAge
    Participant

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    – It seems the “live” color selection on the color picker constantly writes to the hard disk (podium.ini?) – I can even hear it scratching away! 😯

    I don’t know about writing to the HD but moving the color selector around created some pretty big spikes in the cpu preformance meters according to the TaskManager. No biggie as long as its not adjusted while playback is going on.

    January 5, 2010 at 11:43 #17217
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @UncleAge wrote:

    @thcilnnahoj wrote:

    – It seems the “live” color selection on the color picker constantly writes to the hard disk (podium.ini?) – I can even hear it scratching away! 😯

    I don’t know about writing to the HD but moving the color selector around created some pretty big spikes in the cpu preformance meters according to the TaskManager. No biggie as long as its not adjusted while playback is going on.

    I have already made extensive optimizations to the color updating. There are a lot of stuff that needs to be computed: Each pixel in texture bitmaps must be converted from RGB to HSL, hue/luminance adjusted, and then converted back to RGB. Buttons must be algorithmically rerendered with the new colors. Various UI elements that are cached in bitmaps for speed efficiency must be recreated. And so on. I don’t recommend you adjust colors while you’re recording. 🙂

    January 5, 2010 at 23:55 #17234
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Beta10 is up, with the latest batch of bugfixes. This is hopefully the last beta. Unless you find some issues with this, I’ll make a release within a couple of days.

    January 6, 2010 at 01:07 #17237
    thcilnnahoj
    Participant

    Quick tests reveal a few things are still present. Just ignore me if you know but don’t plan on fixing them right now! 😛
    Thanks for mouse-wheel control of the mixer zoom slider!

    Very weird bug this time: When there’s an active bounce playback on the master track and there’s an automation track present in the arrangement, then looping will be kind of broken. 😮
    No problems without any automation tracks or bounced files playing on other tracks than the master.

    Please see example GIF (775 KB) and try for yourself. the play cursor will return to the loop start even if loop mode is deactivated long before the cursor reaches the end.

    Another tiny one: If you click on a bounce button while holding Alt+Shift (don’t ask me why :wink:), the keys (and thus the slide tool) will “stick” if you release them during the bouncing process.
    Same thing happens when you use Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift on any buttons that open a menu – that includes selector buttons. Since most menu buttons can be right-clicked now too, it of course happens with both mouse buttons!

    This seems to be a tiny bug as well: Sequences shorter than 4 beats are zoomed to the exact length of 4 beats in their respective editors when you use ‘Zoom Full Range’ or double-click the navigator.

    January 8, 2010 at 12:04 #17262
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @H-man wrote:

    At the risk of sounding like a broken record, would this be a good time to add the option of different colours (ie. lighter colours for darker themems) for the markers on the level meters?

    Are you talking about the dark 0, -3, -6, -12 dB indicator lines within the meter? If so, would the solution be to use the configured text color instead of black to highlight the lines?

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