thcilnnahoj.
ZynewaveBeta1 is available in the VIP lounge. Change-log so far:
• Zoom snapshots can be created by clicking the new “+” button next to the arrangement navigator. A numbered snapshot button appears for each snapsnot. Click a snapshot button to recall the zoom settings. Ctrl+click to overwrite with the current zoom settings. Alt+click to delete the snapshot. Right-click to show an options menu.
• Changed the way that track height zooming works. The track heights no longer stretches when the tracks region is resized. The vertical zoom slider is modified to be a percentage zoom from 0% to 200%. At 0% all track heights are minimized no matter how large the height is of each individual track. Track heights in projects saved with previous Podium versions will be reset to default, since track heights now are stored in a different format.
• Added “Load Color Setup” submenu and “Explore Setup Folder” command to the Setup menu.
• The installer now creates a “Color Setups” subfolder in the main Podium setup folder. If you have saved your own color setup files you need to move those into the “Color Setups” folder to make them appear in the “Load Color Setup” submenu.
• The meter dB indicator lines inside the meters are colored with the text color.
• Increased the maximum number of effects in a chain from 32 to 64.
• Added a favorite folder “+” button to the file browser toolbar.
• Fix: Fixed a bug that potentially could cause a crash when closing Podium.
• Fix: The recent projects information panel was blank due to a side-effect of an optimization in the 2.24 release.
• Fix: Changing the play/power color in the color setup would not update the color of the play cursor head.
• Fix: Clicking on the marker/tempo lane did not set key focus if the mixer had key focus.
Please note that the new zoom snapshots are not yet saved in the project file. So backup your project file if you plan to save it with this beta. The old track heights will be reset.
I’m happy I finally got around to the zoom snapshots. I’ve been meaning to do that since I implemented the navigator. Revising the track height zooming is also something that have been nagging me for a while.
The only extra thing I plan for the 2.25 release, is highlighting the snapshot zoom area in the navigator, when the mouse cursor is over a snapshot button. I hope to release 2.25 this coming weekend, unless you guys come up with clever ideas/bugs :wink:.
LiquidProj3ct@Zynewave wrote:
The track heights no longer stretches when the tracks region is resized.
Thanks you! 🙂
I haven’t any comment about navigator/browser snapshots since I don’t use them 😳
Zynewave@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
I haven’t any comment about navigator/browser snapshots since I don’t use them 😳
The zoom snapshot is a new feature in 2.25. It just work similarly to the favorite folder toolbar in the browser. Do you mean to say that you don’t find zoom snapshots useful?
LiquidProj3ctPlease, don’t misinterpret me: I think that they will be useful for other people but not for me, because I use 10-12 tracks as max for a song of 5-7 minutes.
It’s a cool feature, but I don’t see myself jumping between navigator snapshots frecuently making real music. I spend more time focused in editing a clip that jumping between song positions or doing another cool stuff (that’s the reason that my FRs are related to usability, where I spend the most of my time doing music). And when I edit a clip it’s posible that I edit another related part that it’s always pretty close.
In fact I don’t know how could I use those snapshot. Maybe I should take them in those parts that requiere most attention frecuently, but it takes a little time with Ctrl/Alt/Shift shorcuts do the same and once I ‘fix’ those parts I wouldn’t need anymore the snapshot. The time I need to create and delete a snapshot would be the same that using Crl/alt/shift shorcuts or/and a single click in navigator.
It’s just my workflow, maybe others that make long songs with tons of track will find it useful. Me don’t, and please, I don’t try to underestimate this feature! Just explain why I won’t use it as you request.
About browser snapshots, I use them, only one, directed to my sample folder. When Podium can drag and drop samples to vsti maybe I’ll use more browser’s snapshots.
Best regards
Zynewave@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
Please, don’t misinterpret me: I think that they will be useful for other people but not for me, because I use 10-12 tracks as max for a song of 5-7 minutes.
Thanks for the explanation. Yes, the snapshots are mostly intended for navigation in large arrangements with many tracks. You can create a snapshot where the vertical zoom is at 0%, so that you can quickly get an overview of all the tracks, and zoom in on the area you want to work on. You can also create zoomed-in snapshots of e.g. drum tracks, bass tracks, vocal tracks and so on, so that you can quickly switch between these different sections.
LiquidProj3ctOk 🙂
Left clicking in current selected profile button will select the first profile.. I don’t know if this is a feature (weird!) or a bug
edit: changed the bug description
Zynewave@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
Ok 🙂
Left clicking in current selected profile button will select the first profile.. I don’t know if this is a feature (weird!) or a bug
edit: changed the bug description
It was a feature, and intended as a shortcut for quickly returning to the first (home) profile. No point in having features that are weird, so I’ve now removed this functionality. Thinking about it I agree that it can be perceived as unexpected behaviour.
UncleAgeFirst off thanks for the change made to track height when opening an editor window.
@Zynewave wrote:
• Added a favorite folder “+” button to the file browser toolbar.
I clicked the Browser button. The area already had 3 favorite buttons in place. Next I kept clicking the “+” button until there were 9 favorites added, all of the them the same folder. When I did this a couple of things seemed strange.
1. The “+” button disappeared. Now maybe this is ok since there wasn’t any room left in that area for another button. And I have no problem with the arbitrary number of 9 for favorites, but…
2. All of the “newly added” buttons were highlighted, seemingly as a group. So selecting any of them selected all of them.
3. I could not find a way to delete any of the favorite buttons. Any of them.
Obviously some part of this is a bug.
LiquidProj3ctNow that I’ve started to use the embedded mixer again (thanks to this update) I find a tiny detail. Take a look at the hotkey ‘F8’ to show and hide the mixer. When mixer is hidden F8 always show it, but when it’s showed F8 first focus the mixer, and with a second stroke it hide it. I find unuseful the “focus” stage, you could do that F8 always show and hide the embedded mixer if it’s focused as it isn’t.
Best regards
Conquistador@UncleAge wrote:
3. I could not find a way to delete any of the favorite buttons. Any of them.
Obviously some part of this is a bug.
IIRC you need to right click on the buttons to bring up a small menu. You can then delete from there.
thcilnnahojLove the zoom snapshots! It’s great that the vertical zoom setting is also stored – this is extra nice as you can, for example, use one snapshot for precise editing. But to be honest, with the track height setting I used up until now, a maximum of 200% zoom is much too small for this kind of editing.
My suggestions are these (one for me, one for you :wink:):
1. I set my tracks’ default height much larger from now on and try to use a vertical zoom level smaller than the default for normal arranging. Then I can zoom in as far as I like during editing. The disadvantage is that I have to set up two extra things, and I can’t use Ctrl-click on the zoom slider anymore.
2. The max. zoom amount is increased some more again.
I think it’d also be very helpful if “follow focus track” could also be in the arrangement view about now. The problem is that there’s almost always an extra step now to get to the track you want.
I’ve said this before, and I’ll try again now: Always display pop-up help for the favorite folder buttons, even if both help options are disabled. I don’t think I would remember the locations of up to 9 favorite folders, and turning help on just to see which is which would not make me happy in the long run. 😛
thcilnnahoj@Zynewave wrote:
@LiquidProj3ct wrote:
Ok 🙂
Left clicking in current selected profile button will select the first profile.. I don’t know if this is a feature (weird!) or a bug
edit: changed the bug description
It was a feature, and intended as a shortcut for quickly returning to the first (home) profile. No point in having features that are weird, so I’ve now removed this functionality. Thinking about it I agree that it can be perceived as unexpected behaviour.
I thought it was nice, for example to click on the “mixer” profile button to check my levels, and just click again without having to move the mouse to go back to the arrangement. No sleep will be lost over its removal, though!
@UncleAge wrote:
I clicked the Browser button. The area already had 3 favorite buttons in place. Next I kept clicking the “+” button until there were 9 favorites added, all of the them the same folder. When I did this a couple of things seemed strange.
1. The “+” button disappeared. Now maybe this is ok since there wasn’t any room left in that area for another button. And I have no problem with the arbitrary number of 9 for favorites, but…
2. All of the “newly added” buttons were highlighted, seemingly as a group. So selecting any of them selected all of them.
3. I could not find a way to delete any of the favorite buttons. Any of them.
Obviously some part of this is a bug.
I don’t think there’s anything out of the ordinary there… However, a right-click menu with commands for deleting and rearranging favorites would be welcome, like there is for the zoom snapshot buttons.
thcilnnahojHmm, it seems showing/hiding or resizing tracks can mess with the snapshots’ vertical position. I.e., I’ve got a snapshot of a hugely blown up bass track. I later decide to hide the drums group track, and when I return to the bass snapshot, it’ll not quite be as I left it.
I can’t think of anything to prevent this other than storing track heights and minimize states with snapshots. Though I’d say that’d cause a lot more trouble than it’s worth. 😕
H-manLove it 😀
Frits, you’ve just conquered the tyranny of lengthly arrangements.
(only nine snapshots :P)
Zynewave@UncleAge wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
• Added a favorite folder “+” button to the file browser toolbar.
I clicked the Browser button. The area already had 3 favorite buttons in place. Next I kept clicking the “+” button until there were 9 favorites added, all of the them the same folder. When I did this a couple of things seemed strange.
1. The “+” button disappeared. Now maybe this is ok since there wasn’t any room left in that area for another button. And I have no problem with the arbitrary number of 9 for favorites, but…
2. All of the “newly added” buttons were highlighted, seemingly as a group. So selecting any of them selected all of them.
3. I could not find a way to delete any of the favorite buttons. Any of them.
Obviously some part of this is a bug.
Thanks for the walkthrough. Favorites and zoom snapshots can be deleted by Alt+clicking the button, as mentioned in the popup help for those buttons. You can also delete the favorites in the “Favorite Folders” setup dialog. I’ve now made further changes that should make it easier to get through the problems you experienced:
The “+” buttons for both the favorites and zoom snapshots now only produce a new shortcut button if it does not already exist. When the + button is inactive it is indicated by a dimmed + image on the button.
The favorite buttons can now be right-clicked to show a menu similar to the one for the zoom snapshots and editor profile bar. In this menu you have a command for deleting the favorite.
This is available in beta2, which I just uploaded.
Also in beta2: Clicking a favorite folder or zoom snapshot button a second time will revert to the previous folder/zoom.