Topic: Problem with Stereo Panning… help :(

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December 31, 2010 at 14:04 #2491

iiiDaNiii
Participant

I’m relatively new to podium…. so there’s probably a simple answer to this question

when I try to pan a stereo track to the left or right…. it only increases and decreases the volume. It’s like it’s stuck in some sort of mono mode and I don’t know how to get it out.

any ideas?

(PS: I’m in podium free… if that makes a difference)

December 31, 2010 at 15:18 #20179

Trancit
Participant

Can you describe, what you have done exactly???

Works flawless here:

December 31, 2010 at 17:55 #20180

iiiDaNiii
Participant

ok, here is a track with the pan centered… er.. I guess it’s a little to the right…. but close enough

Here is a track panned all the way to the right:

notice the bass lead track shows only right signal, but the master volume has gone all the way down. I can hear nothing.

and here it is panned all the way to the left:

Now the bass lead track signifies only left signal, and the master is back up. I can hear it…. but in both the left AND the right.

December 31, 2010 at 23:26 #20181

Trancit
Participant

OK, it seems, you have bounced a sequence from NI Massive and try to pan this now, correct???

I have to admit, there seem to be a problem. I am on Version 2.40 and after bouncing, the pan slider doesn´t have any effect, it simply does nothing.
Not sure, if this a bug or works this way…

Workaround: select in the rightclick context menu of the Massive track “Bounce” => “Move bounced Audio to new track”

Podium creates a new track and moves the bounced audio file to it. In this track, all seems to work fine there, the panning as well.

Hope this helps and if this a bug, I am sure Fritz will fix this as soon as possible.

Trancit

December 31, 2010 at 23:50 #20182

iiiDaNiii
Participant

trouble is… I have this same problem no matter what track or what plugin I use. Even an audio sample has the same problem

January 1, 2011 at 06:20 #20183

thcilnnahoj
Participant

Hello and welcome!

The problem is most likely with the PeakCompressor plug-in you have on your master track, assuming it’s the same one available as free download here: http://www.sinusweb.de/download.html

This plug-in is meant for mono processing only. However, probably because of a programming oversight in the plug-in, Podium incorrectly imports it as mono- and stereo-capable. Since the plug-in only processes one channel, though, the second channel remains unused, resulting in the weird behaviour you’re experiencing!

You should either use the mono mapping Podium created for the plug-in to work normally, or use another compressor if you want stereo output. I briefly checked the shareware demo version of PeakCompressor, and it works correctly. If you’re actually getting the problem with the non-free version, please say so.

Hope this helps! 🙂

January 1, 2011 at 12:03 #20188

iiiDaNiii
Participant

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

Hello and welcome!

The problem is most likely with the PeakCompressor plug-in you have on your master track, assuming it’s the same one available as free download here: http://www.sinusweb.de/download.html

This plug-in is meant for mono processing only. However, probably because of a programming oversight in the plug-in, Podium incorrectly imports it as mono- and stereo-capable. Since the plug-in only processes one channel, though, the second channel remains unused, resulting in the weird behaviour you’re experiencing!

You should either use the mono mapping Podium created for the plug-in to work normally, or use another compressor if you want stereo output. I briefly checked the shareware demo version of PeakCompressor, and it works correctly. If you’re actually getting the problem with the non-free version, please say so.

Hope this helps! 🙂

you, sir, are a clever cookie.

thanks a ton, man. that was the problem.
now I just need to find a free peak compressor that doesn’t screw up my track 😥

January 1, 2011 at 12:43 #20189

MelodyMan
Participant

The same thing happened for me with Gsnap. Only the stereo-version works in Podium.

January 1, 2011 at 13:14 #20192

Trancit
Participant

Nevertheless there is a problem with panning of bounced tracks…

I don´t think, it´s normal behaviour, that the panning slider does nothing on a bounced track.

Trancit

January 1, 2011 at 13:32 #20193

iiiDaNiii
Participant

@Trancit wrote:

Nevertheless there is a problem with panning of bounced tracks…

I don´t think, it´s normal behaviour, that the panning slider does nothing on a bounced track.

Trancit

yea that kindof makes sense though… I don’t think you can really do anything to a bounced track to effect it. If you take off the bounce, put in some panning, and then bounce again, it should save the panning

January 1, 2011 at 15:09 #20194

thcilnnahoj
Participant

I guess it might be an intentional limitation, since the pan value is greyed-out when the fader is set on a bounce track, though I don’t know why either.

You can work around it by setting the fader position on an (empty or not) effect track placed after the bounce track.

January 2, 2011 at 01:51 #20199

Zynewave
Keymaster

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

I guess it might be an intentional limitation, since the pan value is greyed-out when the fader is set on a bounce track, though I don’t know why either.

It’s because the pan processing needs to consider the mono/stereo format of child tracks, pan-laws and any pan automation tracks. This information is not available once the child tracks are summed/bounced, so that is why the pan control is disabled on bounced tracks. It’s easier with the gain control, because this is applied identically on all bounce output channels.

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