Topic: Questioning the logic of a VST scan before saving a project
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January 11, 2009 at 11:51 #1767
aMUSEdParticipantThe new release seems to be crashing a lot on plugin scan which is making it very hard to create a new project. I really wonder why the process of making a project involves scanning the VST folder before the project is saved because every time I get a crash I have to start again making a new project.
On the other hand if I don’t do it at this point, if I choose to untick the scan plugins and later on do the scan using the “Import plugins from folder” and add folders one-by-one so I can rule out what is causing the crashes Podium doesn’t then sort the plugins by the folders they are in which creates a very unorganised list.
January 11, 2009 at 17:09 #13669
ZynewaveKeymaster@aMUSEd wrote:
The new release seems to be crashing a lot on plugin scan which is making it very hard to create a new project. I really wonder why the process of making a project involves scanning the VST folder before the project is saved because every time I get a crash I have to start again making a new project.
I haven’t touched the plugin scanning code for a very long time. Is it your perception that the Podium scanning has become unstable, or do you think it is new plugins you have installed that could be the cause?
Are you familiar with how project templates work? If you scan your plugins once and save that project as a template, then future new projects can be created with the “Project Templates > New Project” submenu, rather than the “Create New Project” page.
On the other hand if I don’t do it at this point, if I choose to untick the scan plugins and later on do the scan using the “Import plugins from folder” and add folders one-by-one so I can rule out what is causing the crashes Podium doesn’t then sort the plugins by the folders they are in which creates a very unorganised list.
If you select multiple devices in the devices list, you can right-click and use the “Sort Alphabetically” command.
January 11, 2009 at 17:11 #13671aMUSEdParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
If you select multiple devices in the devices list, you can right-click and use the “Sort Alphabetically” command.
Yes but they are no longer in folders – that is the bigger problem here – sorting them alphabetically means they are still mixed up.
January 11, 2009 at 17:13 #13672aMUSEdParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
@aMUSEd wrote:
The new release seems to be crashing a lot on plugin scan which is making it very hard to create a new project. I really wonder why the process of making a project involves scanning the VST folder before the project is saved because every time I get a crash I have to start again making a new project.
I haven’t touched the plugin scanning code for a very long time. Is it your perception that the Podium scanning has become unstable, or do you think it is new plugins you have installed that could be the cause?
It does seem to be freezing on some plugins that worked before (eg NI Kore) but also it is just “poofing” for no apparent reason on scan so I’m not even getting a chance to see what is causing it. My main point though is the plugin scan should come after the project has been saved otherwise you can never save it if it keeps crashing on scan. Possibly what it needs is a “scan on next startup” or something or just an option to save the project before scan commences.
January 11, 2009 at 17:21 #13674ZynewaveKeymaster@aMUSEd wrote:
My main point though is the plugin scan should come after the project has been saved otherwise you can never save it if it keeps crashing on scan. Possibly what it needs is a “scan on next startup” or something or just an option to save the project before scan commences.
When you say “save the project” do you mean saving it as a template project?
January 11, 2009 at 19:13 #13680aMUSEdParticipantYes
January 11, 2009 at 19:18 #13681ZynewaveKeymasterOk, then I don’t understand why you want the project saved before the plugin scanning. What’s the point of saving the template project when it’s not fully created?
January 11, 2009 at 21:59 #13687aMUSEdParticipantBecause if the scan causes a crash, which it is doing regularly at the moment, then there never gets to be a project and I keep having to recreate it from scratch. If i could set the VSt folder but have it scan after saving or on next startup then I wouldn’t have to do that.
January 11, 2009 at 23:47 #13688ZynewaveKeymasterThe “VST Plugin Folder” you select on the create new project page (which you can also set in the Preferences dialog) is stored in the Podium.ini file.
If your problem is that the folder you select is not remembered when you get a crash, then you can get around this by exiting Podium (or saving the setup manually) after you have selected the VST folder, to force Podium to save it in the setup. The next time you start up Podium the VST folder you last selected will be remembered.
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