druid.
thcilnnahojHere’s a little thing that’s bugged me lately as I’ve got more and more into MIDI editing in Podium. It also applies to all embedded editors plus the mixer.
(by keyboard)
As it is now, only a single press is needed to show the editor/mixer (F6/F7). However, to hide them again, usually two presses are required – one selects the editor and a second hides it. The only reason I could think of why you’d want to only change focus to the editor is for key commands. But you could just press TAB for that.
If possible, could this be changed to make them work like the Inspector/Browser tabs – always show/hide with a single tap?
(by mouse)
Is there a need for a double-click? Why not make them show/hide with a single click on the whole header (not just the arrow to the right) instead.
Resizing would be compromised a bit by this… Maybe it’s possible to detect a ‘grab-action’ if you don’t let go of the mouse button immediately? :-k
Zynewave@thcilnnahoj wrote:
If possible, could this be changed to make them work like the Inspector/Browser tabs – always show/hide with a single tap?
The F1 to F5 keys for the inspector also works like F6/F7, where they first set focus to the inspector panel (if not already in focus) before doing a close action.
Is there a need for a double-click? Why not make them show/hide with a single click on the whole header (not just the arrow to the right) instead.
Resizing would be compromised a bit by this… Maybe it’s possible to detect a ‘grab-action’ if you don’t let go of the mouse button immediately? :-k
Single-clicking the title is also a shortcut for setting the key focus to the mixer/embedded editor. It works similar to a normal window titlebar, where double-clicking also toggles between restore/maximize state. Making single-click on the title automatically open/close goes against expected windows behaviour I think.
thcilnnahoj@Zynewave wrote:
The F1 to F5 keys for the inspector also works like F6/F7, where they first set focus to the inspector panel (if not already in focus) before doing a close action.
Ahh– you’re right, I got it mixed up. It still begs the question for me if it’s really necessary for those keys to be used for selecting when you could always switch over to whichever tabs/editors are open with the TAB key.
It just creates a little hurdle in my personal workflow if I always have to take a millisecond out to check whether I have to press F6 once or twice this time (i.e. maybe I opened the piano roll and saw no need for change after all, therefore not selecting the editor). OK, it’s getting nitpicky now, but maybe you can see what I mean. 😳
druidI kind of like it. Instead of having to multiple tab through things (which takes a while to know where your tab is at, and work out what order it goes in, so you can get the right window), you can just jump directly to it.
Once I started using those shortcuts, I found how easy it made it for me. And two hits to close it? Makes sense to me; if I’m trying to go to a window, I’m going to look at it, otherwise why would I want to focus on it? And if I’m doing that, I will know whether it’s open or not. So when my eyes flick to where it expects it, if it is already open and I want it closed, I press twice.
thcilnnahoj@druid wrote:
I kind of like it. Instead of having to multiple tab through things […] you can just jump directly to it.
Are you talking about F6/F7 or the Inspector (F1-5)? If it’s the latter, I’m curious why you’d want to select one of those in particular.
And two hits to close it? Makes sense to me; if I’m trying to go to a window, I’m going to look at it, otherwise why would I want to focus on it? And if I’m doing that, I will know whether it’s open or not. So when my eyes flick to where it expects it, if it is already open and I want it closed, I press twice.
Naturally, yes. If you always had to do two strokes to close it, that’d be fine. But what if it’s already focussed… You’d close and reopen it!
Sure you can see if it is indeed selected beforehand, but I tend to look at the sequence I plan to edit, not the titlebar. 😕
For example: I select a MIDI clip, press F6, change something -> F6 once again to close.
If I select some other MIDI clip right after editing, I still keep looking at the editor – but it’s no longer focussed. And when I come to the conclusion I don’t want to edit it after all I must press F6 twice.
Color me stupid, but it so often happens that I don’t get it right. 😳
So I’m asking if there is a need to specifically select an editor by keyboard. The only reason I can think of for ONLY selecting any editor/Inspector panel would be to use keyboard shortcuts. And the only one I can think of that even has some of those is the sequence editor, which would be selected on open/close anyway.
druidHm, well I admit I don’t see a need for selecting specific sections in the inspector, but then again pressing one slides that part open. I think I may have slightly misinterpreted you though.