druid.
druidI don’t mean to be a bastard, but I have not had one single viral problem on my computer. I use AVG Free, but I do NOT let it run all the time. I only scan here and there, and the occasional full system scan, to make sure things are working ok.
I never open weird things in emails, even from people I know, unless I’m well aware what they are.
I don’t download illegal software.
I don’t accept weird cookies nor allow websites to do very much automatic stuff on their own.
I’m also behind a hardware firewall, which I understand not everyone wants to pay for (I need to share internet anyway :P). The Windows built in one is ok I guess. But with all those things .. do you really need to waste CPU and RAM on a virus checker always running?
So I really don’t see how you can get a virus, if you were to act in a similar way to me, and therefore I don’t see why you need one running, either.
You either, Frits. 😛
bfloyd6969@Zynewave wrote:
@bfloyd6969 wrote:
That was it. I disabled my anti virus and Podium closed immediately. So what is it in the anti virus that is causing a closing delay in Podium and none of the other apps I have???
I don’t know. I’m using Avast antivirus on Vista, and I don’t have problems with any noticeable delays on any applications.
When you close Podium, does the Podium main window remain open during the entire delay?
The window that remains open is the window that is last open. I usually close with the X on the top right. Also, when I close before saving, and the save changes window pops up and I choose to save, then that window stays open for the duration.
H-manHi all,
Just thought I’d chime in 🙂
I use Kaspersky and I have noticed that even when “disabled at start-up”, Kaspersky runs a service (avp.exe) that causes the slow load/unload times for Podium.
However if I run KAV (control application), then choose to close it down completely (no more avp.exe in taskmanager), Podium loads/unloads in a shot (faster than XT???)
I don’t know why this happens, maybe because Podium is a bigger dll linked to lots of other dlls which is what the AV programs look for?
Either way, the issue of load times is not with Podium, you just have to know your setup.
druidInteresting… AVG 8.0 started including service/s that you can’t really disable unless you want to re-enable them each time you want to scan. Sure it doesn’t scan non-stop, but you can’t disable those services without making it unusable. Quite annoying actually, but I sitll use it.
I don’t believe I have any Podium issues though. Perhaps AVG is either less thorough or just ignores it? Hm…
thcilnnahoj@druid wrote:
So I really don’t see how you can get a virus, if you were to act in a similar way to me, and therefore I don’t see why you need one running, either.
You’re probably right about that… I’m the same and I, too, have yet to get hit with a virus. But since switching to a new PC a year back, I just didn’t bother to turn it off since it has no impact on performance whatsoever.
Strange that only Podium is affected somehow, by different anti-virus programs no less (I use Avira AntiVir – http://www.free-av.de).
PiginiI just keep seperate systems, selectable with a bootmanager, one for online and networking, one for the music stuff.
In the music configuration, I even have all nonessential services switched off, no networking etc, all mean and sleek completely optimized, think that’s best for the audio stuff anyway, no virusscan necessary there. And I keep away from software wanting me to register online.
mr_es335Hello,
This is a somewhat “typical” situation – with so many potential variables – that anything is possible. In situations such as this – a dedicated sytem is the only way to go. However, that just may not be financially viable for some.
The other option is “disk imaging”. I use this on all my systems and the benefits far outweigh the initial cost of the software.
As to the original complaint – anyone who is having any sort of application problems should use “Selective Start-up” and turn off anything that can be turned off. Most problems such as these are usually anitvirus/antispyware app situations. Disabling them is very often the fix for such problems.
Hope this helps!
mr_es335
druidYou don’t need dedicated machines, as long as you know more or less what you’re doing with the machine. Stripping Windows down is mostly a myth, apparently. There are gains, but they are negligible, at least with today’s systems. But there are always people who buy into it like it will double their power or at least add 25%, when it won’t, unless their software was setup poorly in the first place.
In my experience. And this is only with XP (Pro, to be precise). I cannot speak for other operating systems so easily.
The whole scare factor for needing anti-viral programs is really overblown and driven mostly by paranoia. The only people that need them are people who are like kleptomaniacs, except for downloading rather than stealing. That, and not really understanding that you should not open attachments on ANY emails even from people you know unless you know what they are.
I mean, even I have one installed, after saying all that; I can’t remember the last time I ran it, and I sure don’t let it run unless I tell it to. 😛