Topic: Some suggestions in the midi editing

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  • #393
    Alfonso Santimone
    Participant

    Hi!
    I’m testing the Podium demo wich i like vert much 🙂

    some suggestion in the editing and midi editing.

    1. The zoom bar should zoom the visibile area at the window’s center…like the zoom tool does.
    This way is much more confortable cuase you have’nt to change tool to zoom.

    2. I’d make the pencil switchable to rearrange tool (if yoy have the pencil tool maybe you can swithc to arrange with shift+click or with right click)..
    this is because the typical work whil editing is draw/reaarange/draw/rearrange etc.. so having to change tool is very time consuming.

    3. The pencil tool could be used to split (part and notes) too with another mouse/key combination or whatever.

    4. Velocity editing is quite difficult when you have many overlapping notes..and theat’s the limit of the cubase-like paradigm.
    A kind of way to modify velocity draggin onto the actual note or notes with multiple selection could be nice…a velocity tool or pencil drag + V key.

    Obviously points 2, 3, 4 would be customizable with a shorcuts key and mouse configuration page.

    lemme know what you think about
    thanx
    lalo

    #4186
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    1. The zoom bar should zoom the visibile area at the window’s center…like the zoom tool does.

    In one of the latest releases, the zoom bar was changed so that it zooms around the play cursor position. Put the play cursor in the middle of the time range, and it will zoom around center. Otherwise, use combinations of shift+ctrl+alt to temporarily engage the zoom tools.

    2. I’d make the pencil switchable to rearrange tool

    The pencil tool does everything that the rearrange tool does. You don’t have to switch to rearrange tool to move stuff around. Only reason to do so, is if the event resize arrows make it hard to select and drag/move short events.

    3. The pencil tool could be used to split (part and notes) too with another mouse/key combination or whatever.

    At some point I will implement user-definable key shortcuts, so that will enable you to set up shortcuts for all the tools you desire. It is difficult to set up defaults keys for all conceivable tool combinations.

    4. Velocity editing is quite difficult when you have many overlapping notes

    This is where the velocity editor ‘Edit only selected events’ menu/button toggle comes in handy. When using this mode, you can e.g. select a single note event in a chord, and then edit the velocity of only this note.

    #4189
    Alfonso Santimone
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    1. The zoom bar should zoom the visibile area at the window’s center…like the zoom tool does.

    In one of the latest releases, the zoom bar was changed so that it zooms around the play cursor position. Put the play cursor in the middle of the time range, and it will zoom around center. Otherwise, use combinations of shift+ctrl+alt to temporarily engage the zoom tools.

    thanx i’ll try :)..sorry for my noobieness 😳
    EDIT: but does’nt works in the demo version wich is 1.20..am i right?

    @Zynewave wrote:

    2. I’d make the pencil switchable to rearrange tool

    The pencil tool does everything that the rearrange tool does. You don’t have to switch to rearrange tool to move stuff around. Only reason to do so, is if the event resize arrows make it hard to select and drag/move short events.

    ok..can i do multiple selections draggin the mouse with the pencil tool..then copy paste or cut paste etc. ?

    @Zynewave wrote:

    3. The pencil tool could be used to split (part and notes) too with another mouse/key combination or whatever.

    At some point I will implement user-definable key shortcuts, so that will enable you to set up shortcuts for all the tools you desire. It is difficult to set up defaults keys for all conceivable tool combinations.

    cool…custom shortcut and mouse handling is the way to go…one can have possibly different sets for different pourposes 🙂

    @Zynewave wrote:

    4. Velocity editing is quite difficult when you have many overlapping notes

    This is where the velocity editor ‘Edit only selected events’ menu/button toggle comes in handy. When using this mode, you can e.g. select a single note event in a chord, and then edit the velocity of only this note.

    ok..but the whole point to me is to avoid the classical mouse dance of piano-roll/controller area/piano-roll/controller area/ etc… when you have complex polyphonic textures or complex beat to edit it needs a lot more time..but if we can i.e. press V with the pencil tool and drag on a note or on a multiple selection of notes..it can be very very confortable…this is the only reason i miss logic audio 😥 👿

    🙂 thanx for your very complete reply 🙂
    lalo

    #4192
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    but does’nt works in the demo version wich is 1.20..am i right?

    Correct. The zoom bar change was introduced in release 1.22.

    ok..can i do multiple selections draggin the mouse with the pencil tool..then copy paste or cut paste etc. ?

    I forgot about this. With the pencil tool you can click the events to select multiple (using shift), but you can’t drag a marquee to select all events inside the drag area.

    ok..but the whole point to me is to avoid the classical mouse dance of piano-roll/controller area

    One way to speed this up could be to use the plus/minus keys to edit velocity of all selected events. Check out the ‘Keys’ page in the Podium guide to see what shortcuts are available.

    #4194
    Alfonso Santimone
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    One way to speed this up could be to use the plus/minus keys to edit velocity of all selected events. Check out the ‘Keys’ page in the Podium guide to see what shortcuts are available.

    thanx..it works…seems at a fixed step +/- 10 i guess…can i change the step to 1?

    anyway the ‘edit only selected events’ seems does’nt work in the 1.20 version…if i edit the velocity with the mouse having selected 1 note this option doesn’t prevent editing other events..
    thanx
    lalo

    #4195
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    can i change the step to 1?

    No.

    anyway the ‘edit only selected events’ seems does’nt work in the 1.20 version…

    You’re right! The menu shortcut is not working. Will fix this right away. You can use the checkmark button in the left edge panel, to toggle the mode.

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