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H-man@Zynewave wrote:
Otherwise, my other option is to be silent about what I’m working on presently, and only release 0.1 or 0.5 version updates each 6 months. These larger updates will then have a wider range of features that hopefully will include something useful for most users.
No thanks …don’t go changin.
My love of Podium is based around that fact that the changes are implemented carefully and thoughtfully with rather deep user input and feedback, ie. the betas.
Too many professional software packages out there contain the weirdest logic.
I understand that some users have specific requirements and hence experience a little frustration. I don’t profess to have any solution for that.
Slomo@Zynewave wrote:
Otherwise, my other option is to be silent about what I’m working on presently, and only release 0.1 or 0.5 version updates each 6 months.
Oh no, don’t… 😉
acousmod@Zynewave wrote:
@H-man wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
The screenshots you see in my first post in this topic is the full Podium 2.40, where I just have modified the default editor profiles to fit on the smaller screen.
So what’s it like? You said in a previous post that you were excited about the project (or was it the possibilities?). Does it feel workable even on the touch?
I have not fully implemented the multi-touch gestures yet. There are some gestures that needs to be tested in real life before I know if it feels intuitive.
I think the iPhone/iPod 3.5″ display is too small for serious arrangement work. It will be handy as a portable recorder, and as a quick way to make beats in the drum map editor. I would not find it enjoyable to work on a full arrangement. For that, you’ll need a tablet size device.
If you want somebody to test the multitouch features in Win7, I wil be pleased do it with my Dell XT2 Tablet…
UncleAgeI am a little surprised by some of the negative reactions. But as another user put it, maybe it’s a sign of a certain demographic’s response to change. I’m 43 in a few weeks and I have been a computer zealot since I sat down at a Commodore PET in 9th grade and started learning assembly code for the 6502 processor. I embrace change. I always like to hear about the latest greatest thing and I try to imagine how that new technology could be leveraged to my advantage.
In 2008 I was setting up a new business for myself, after working for someone else 13 years. While I was waiting for some government certifications I took a quickie gig as a chauffeur, for the NFL, during the SuperBowl here in Phoenix. After driving around an unnamed quarterback all day (who was really a great guy) he gave me a bunch of stuff as a tip. One of those things was an iPod Touch. Now I’ve been a MS guy most of my adult life but I have no bad feelings for Apple so I gave it a spin. And I LOVED IT!! That experience led me to buy and iPhone later on and an iMac earlier this year. As you might guess my next purchase will probably be some sort of tablet. Maybe even an iPad.
I think that within the next couple of generations we will have mobile devices that will handle most tasks effectively. And I think it’s foolish to ignore what is so glaringly obvious. I don’t see any mobile device handling heavy studio work for at least 5-10 years. But there are quite a few applications for “Mobium” outside of my studio work. Having the ability to record performances on location and do a simple transfer of the project back to my main setup back at the ranch is very useful. Something more full featured than a Zoom for field recordings would be welcomed as well. I can see Podcasting taking another step forward with the correct app as well. Hell, I think every videographer is waiting for an app to come along that will handle audio captured on-set in a way that will transfer easily to post-production. And I could go on and on…
Ok. Enough of this rant stuff.
Frits, just keep going with it. It’s all good. You took a risk spilling the beans this way but I think it was a good thing to do. And when you are ready to test things out in OSX land, give me a holler.
Also, I think you are wise to keep your options open to iOS and Android. I have an iPhone (hacked to work on T-Mobile) but I am seriously considering an Android phone because I don’t like the constrictions that are placed on me and my phone by Apple’s development. And even though I could develop apps for the iPhone I won’t because I’m not a huge fan of their approval process.
One more thing. Don’t think for a moment that other dev’s are not doing the same thing behind closed doors. Every major host developer is more than likely trying to custom tailor their product for one of those two environments, if not both. If you’re going to do it then do it now. You will gain little from trying to compete with them after their products are released. You are the small dev and should take advantage of the fact that you can be more nimble in the decision making process than folks that have to please the shareholders.
Ok, this time I really mean it…rant over 🙂
aMUSEdI think the iPhone version looks gorgeous but wouldn’t a multi-track audio app be limited without a Line in? (yes you can record directly I suppose but the quality is variable). Or are you planning to include some sound generators (instruments or sample players)?
blafotWindows Mobile / Windows Phone….?
Zynewave@acousmod wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
@H-man wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
The screenshots you see in my first post in this topic is the full Podium 2.40, where I just have modified the default editor profiles to fit on the smaller screen.
So what’s it like? You said in a previous post that you were excited about the project (or was it the possibilities?). Does it feel workable even on the touch?
I have not fully implemented the multi-touch gestures yet. There are some gestures that needs to be tested in real life before I know if it feels intuitive.
I think the iPhone/iPod 3.5″ display is too small for serious arrangement work. It will be handy as a portable recorder, and as a quick way to make beats in the drum map editor. I would not find it enjoyable to work on a full arrangement. For that, you’ll need a tablet size device.
If you want somebody to test the multitouch features in Win7, I wil be pleased do it with my Dell XT2 Tablet…
Thanks for the offer. I’ll need a Windows 7 PC before I can implement the multi-touch in Podium, but I’ll remember to notify you when that time comes.
thcilnnahoj@Zynewave wrote:
I think the iPhone/iPod 3.5″ display is too small for serious arrangement work. It will be handy as a portable recorder, and as a quick way to make beats in the drum map editor. I would not find it enjoyable to work on a full arrangement. For that, you’ll need a tablet size device.
That is an interesting point there: why would you use Mobium, which would be a full-fledged studio environment, for something as simple as this on the go? I love Podium, but there are a lot of iPhone apps available that already do these things, and quite possibly do it better (as in they’re quicker or easier to use) because they were designed from the ground up for just one thing, as well as specifically for mobile touch-screen devices.
If the plan is to get the full Podium ported to an iPad-sized device in order to use it as a complete DAW, that’s fine. But just minimizing the interface and making it more touch-screen-friendly while leaving everything as-is isn’t going to work very well because it’s still going to come across as complicated, I think… even more so because of how simple to use most programs for these devices right now.
Nevertheless, I do very much support this development! 🙂
Zynewave@aMUSEd wrote:
I think the iPhone version looks gorgeous but wouldn’t a multi-track audio app be limited without a Line in? (yes you can record directly I suppose but the quality is variable). Or are you planning to include some sound generators (instruments or sample players)?
I found out after I purchased my iPod Touch that there is a way to get line input. All you need is a special splitter cable to get both headphone out and mic in connectors. Some of these “cables”, such as the IK Multimedia iRig, have line-level attenuation on the mic in plug connector. This page has a good overview of the available accessories:
http://chrisshattuck.com/blog/ultimate-guide-turning-your-ipod-touch-or-iphone-mobile-pocket-studio
thcilnnahoj@Zynewave wrote:
Otherwise, my other option is to be silent about what I’m working on presently, and only release 0.1 or 0.5 version updates each 6 months. These larger updates will then have a wider range of features that hopefully will include something useful for most users.
But… but… who would beta test them? 🙁
Zynewave@thcilnnahoj wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
Otherwise, my other option is to be silent about what I’m working on presently, and only release 0.1 or 0.5 version updates each 6 months. These larger updates will then have a wider range of features that hopefully will include something useful for most users.
But… but… who would beta test them? 🙁
I would send a beta version on a floppy disk by postal mail to you. 😉
Slomo@Zynewave wrote:
I would send a beta version on a floppy disk by postal mail to you. 😉
I belive it should be ‘floppy disks’…if you don’t have a way like when you cut a piece out of a 5 1/3 floppy to be able to use the other side as well 😉
Zynewave@thcilnnahoj wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
I think the iPhone/iPod 3.5″ display is too small for serious arrangement work. It will be handy as a portable recorder, and as a quick way to make beats in the drum map editor. I would not find it enjoyable to work on a full arrangement. For that, you’ll need a tablet size device.
That is an interesting point there: why would you use Mobium, which would be a full-fledged studio environment, for something as simple as this on the go? I love Podium, but there are a lot of iPhone apps available that already do these things, and quite possibly do it better (as in they’re quicker or easier to use) because they were designed from the ground up for just one thing, as well as specifically for mobile touch-screen devices.
If the plan is to get the full Podium ported to an iPad-sized device in order to use it as a complete DAW, that’s fine. But just minimizing the interface and making it more touch-screen-friendly while leaving everything as-is isn’t going to work very well because it’s still going to come across as complicated, I think… even more so because of how simple to use most programs for these devices right now.
Nevertheless, I do very much support this development! 🙂
I’m not saying Mobium would be the ideal application if all is needed is a simple audio recording app. But it would be practical for someone that may know Podium already, either from Windows or from iPad. The iPod Touch has the same mem/cpu specs as the iPad, so it can be used as a way to have your Podium projects in your pocket, either for playback or for transport to a friends PC/iDevice.
Zynewave@Slomo wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
I would send a beta version on a floppy disk by postal mail to you. 😉
I belive it should be ‘floppy disks’…if you don’t have a way like when you cut a piece out of a 5 1/3 floppy to be able to use the other side as well 😉
Are you that old too? 😉 Ahh, the good old Commodore 64 days.