Topic: Tempo change in linear mode?
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April 27, 2004 at 17:08 #144
kagemushaParticipantIs tempo change not possible in linear (Sample Rate) arrangements. I only get tempochanges in “musical” mode.
Also I notice some cosmetic “problem” that the playcurser is cleaning away the tempo markers; when he goes over them they are swept away >> when you press stop they are reappering again. Sometimes podium does it but I can not trace in which exact circumstances it happens.
Eli
April 27, 2004 at 18:23 #3177
ZynewaveKeymasterIs tempo change not possible in linear (Sample Rate) arrangements
They are not enabled in linear mode. What would the point be? They would only be for cosmetic use, as they would not influence the timing of playback in linear mode.
Also I notice some cosmetic “problem” that the playcurser is cleaning away the tempo markers
Now that you mention it, I recall seeing this too a long time ago. I will try to trace it down.
April 27, 2004 at 18:29 #3178kagemushaParticipantalthough it seems quit strange a tempo change in linear time mode it does make sense. A kind of “warping time” to slow down some sequences >> it could be that the ruler/grid is adapting it’s resolution to the change.
otherwise the tempo and quantize/snap functions shouldn’ t be there.
Anyway I think the linear mode is to isolated. You can not see any references to mesures anymore (see midi editor). Even in linear mode it sould be possible to see bars (midi editor).
Eli
April 27, 2004 at 18:35 #3179kagemushaParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
They are not enabled in linear mode. What would the point be? They would only be for cosmetic use, as they would not influence the timing of playback in linear mode.
I think that you should be able to “stretch” your sequence to make it slower. Linear mode has its advantages but I would not exclude tempochanges in some way.
– or a way to switch between linear mode and musical mode
– or a way to perform tempo changes in linear mode by some stretching or schrinking (of seperate regions/sequences).Eli
April 27, 2004 at 19:04 #3182ZynewaveKeymasterHmm, I intended the linear mode more to be used with non-musical material or mastering of a complete album etc. If you find a need for a tempo-event you should use time-signature based arrangements. The things you mentioned about warping etc. could be implemented as edit functions without the need for tempo events.
otherwise the tempo and quantize/snap functions shouldn’ t be there.
You’re right about that. It is confusing. I will disable these buttons when editing in linear mode.
April 27, 2004 at 22:27 #3191kagemushaParticipantHmm, I intended the linear mode more to be used with non-musical material or mastering of a complete album etc. If you find a need for a tempo-event you should use time-signature based arrangements. The things you mentioned about warping etc. could be implemented as edit functions without the need for tempo events.
But the disadvantage of the current state it is that you’re kind of locked in one modus.
If you start in linear mode because it’s most appropriate for some work where you need time codes but you can not go furter with other elements because they are not really functional in linear mode.
Linear mode makes a lot of sense with audio material (bruitage, mastering, recording). but it doesn’t let you work on midi material in a full way. I think it’s a bit of a pitty you can not combine best of both worlds.
In musical mode the length of audio is (virtual) adapted (visual in the grid) to tempochanges >> infact all audio is adapted and “slaved” to midi(tempochanges) and bars. when a tempo is lowered the audio file is redrawn in the arrange to conform with the new speed
Why not make the “opposite” possible; eg that midi-sequences are in relation to the linearity of static recorded audio material and that you can alter (tempo) them inside the fixed linearity.
And make it switchable.
But a kind of timereference in musical mode would do too š
Ciao
EliApril 27, 2004 at 23:26 #3192ZynewaveKeymasterIt’s not a simple thing to implement, so bring it up again in a couple of months. With all the other stuff on my plate at the moment, implementing time-warped time-locked dynamically switchable linearity tempo-events will only give me a head-ache right now šÆ
April 28, 2004 at 00:42 #3193
duncanparsonsParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
implementing time-warped time-locked dynamically switchable linearity tempo-events will only give me a head-ache right now š„
…what..? I thought you were made of sterner stuff!!!
This idea seems great, but like you, I feel it could wait.. at least until Pan and VST automation are in place!!
DSP
April 28, 2004 at 07:25 #3199kagemushaParticipant@Zynewave wrote:
It’s not a simple thing to implement, so bring it up again in a couple of months. With all the other stuff on my plate at the moment, implementing time-warped time-locked dynamically switchable linearity tempo-events will only give me a head-ache right now šÆ
š³ I will keep “my easy talking but hard to implement features” for myself for a time …..
But in a few months …. I think …. I will bring it up again š
May 6, 2004 at 20:03 #3223ZynewaveKeymaster@kagemusha wrote:
Also I notice some cosmetic “problem” that the playcurser is cleaning away the tempo markers; when he goes over them they are swept away >> when you press stop they are reappering again. Sometimes podium does it but I can not trace in which exact circumstances it happens.
I tried, but I can’t get this to happen. Next time you experience this, take a screenshot and mail it to me.
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