Topic: WizooVerbW5 – Stereo Out

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  • #1242
    wanyze
    Participant

    WizooVerbW5 is a VST-plugin, it’s a Surround Room Emulator but has an additional option to Stereo Downmix. I only use W5 as a Stereo Reverb.

    In my other host it only shows up as one plugin and it works great, in Podium I can’t make it work, it shows up as:
    WizooVerbW5 #1 In 1+2
    WizooVerbW5 #1 In 3+4
    WizooVerbW5 #1 In 5+6
    WizooVerbW5 #1 Out 1+2
    WizooVerbW5 #1 Out 3+4
    WizooVerbW5 #1 Out 5+6

    On the midi track I want to apply the Reverb to, I created a new track Group. I tried all Ins and Outs and activated the Stereo Mixdown within Wizoo each time, but no effect. Thanks for any help in advance!

    #9685
    acousmod
    Participant

    Hi,

    1. you can right-click on the WizooVerb folder in the Devices list and choose “New multichannel Insert Mapping” and use it on the track.
    This makes a 5.1 inputs / outputs mapping.
    If your master track is stereo it will use only the first two inputs / outputs (select stereo downmix in the plugin options).

    2. you can active the inputs of the Out 1+2 mapping (for example) : right click on WizzoVerbW5 (#1) Out 1+2, open the Properties and in “Mixer output (plugin input)” choose Stereo (2 channels). Let the First channel on 1.
    The reason because it is not activated by default is that (if I don’t mistake) the multichannel mappings are made for instruments and not for audio plugins, so the inputs are separated from the outputs.
    Frits, is this that ?

    The two solutions use the same amount of CPU.

    #9686
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Yes, right-click the W5 folder/mapping in the start page device list. Select “new multichannel insert mapping” to combine all the individual stereo pairs to one 6 in/6 out mapping. Select “new insert mapping” if you just want a stereo mapping. Check the properties for the new mappings, to make sure the input/output configurations are correct.

    It should be possible to make Podium import surround plugins properly, but I’m waiting for Steinberg to release the VST3 spec before looking into this.

    #9688
    acousmod
    Participant

    It should be possible to make Podium import surround plugins properly, but I’m waiting for Steinberg to release the VST3 spec before looking into this.

    Oh, it is not a problem for me since you have added the “new multichannel insert mapping” option.

    But perhaps that Podium could automatically add it together with the other mappings when importing the VST, or (but I now that you don’t like to have too many options), as I have suggested some time ago, having two options when importing : “multiple stereo mappings” or “multichannel mapping” ?

    #9689
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    VST has a setSpeakerArrangement function that a host can use to test various surround configurations that the plugin may support. The host has to “try” to set a speaker arrangement in the plugin to learn if the plugin supports it. So it’s not an optimal method for enumerating how many channel-configurations a plugin supports.

    In the latest VST 2.4 there were a lot of old functionality that was declared “deprecated”. I’m waiting for VST3 to see if Steinberg comes up with an alternative to setSpeakerArrangement.

    #9693
    wanyze
    Participant

    I wouldn’t have got it by myself. Thanks acousmod and Zynewave! Your solution of how to set it up works great 😉

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