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  • in reply to: Editing SysEx Parameters #16944
    eclairon
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    Hello Frits

    Well, I have had a good read of the wiki and tried what you suggested and after a little struggle understanding the defining and functioning of the objects I have now managed to get a sysex data stream (I used chord control for the exercise) as a curve and I am able to alter chord root and type. I am now going to expand what I have learned so far and try reverb and chorus messages πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Additionally, I have been in contact with a Yamaha Product Specialist who suggested that ‘ … instead of editing a whole list of sysex messages … why not record the backing as an audio file‘ and if needs be ‘ … just edit that‘. So … that … I have tried – just a few bars – and it seems to work!!! Simple really 😳 😳

    I now feel that I have the start of a solution to my problem. Equally, it could be the start of an even larger problem – I have never edited an audio stream before πŸ˜• πŸ˜•

    So, for the moment, I will lay off trying to persuade you to implement sysex editing and head in the direction of curves and audio.

    Thanks for your help, and thanks also to the others who made an input to my plea – I’m sure I’ll be back!

    Ron.

    in reply to: Editing SysEx Parameters #16929
    eclairon
    Participant

    Hello Frits

    Firstly, can I say what an excellent piece of software Podium is.

    I have used Cubase for a long while now but I still find it very hard to use and very bulky for what I do πŸ˜• πŸ˜•

    Podium seems to be fulfilling most (SysEx πŸ™ πŸ™ ) of my needs very nicely and with a very intuitive interface.

    So far I have only used it off-line so I am looking forward to hooking up to my keyboards πŸ˜€

    Now to what I am trying to achieve:

    My main board is a Yamaha Motif XS and when I record a backing piece I use the performance mode on the keyboard.

    So, for example, in Performance mode the Control Sliders send System Exclusive messages to control the individual PART VOLUME. This is necessary because all four PARTS of a PERFORMANCE are basically communicating on to a single MIDI channel. Therefore a regular MIDI Volume message (Channel Control Change message) would affect all four PARTS together… and would not be what is necessary. So System Exclusive messages are used to address PART 1, separately from Part 2, separatley from Part 3 and so on. And much the same for other parameters.

    For live playing I quite often use the backing tracks from my XS on my other board, a PSR8000, and consequently I often have to make adjustments to, using the above example, part volume, to achieve a good balance in output levels when I play say melody and bass.

    Needless to say, there can be many SysEx messages and some can be quite lengthy 😯 😯

    What I was hoping to achieve was to be able to edit the sysex data directly to obtain the required output levels.

    Once you have defined that parameter object, it will allow you to automate the parameter on a curve track, without worrying about the SysEx message format.

    I am not sure what you mean with the above quote so I will now go peruse the wiki πŸ™‚

    By the way, I could send a midi file if it would help to highlight what I am trying to achieve.

    Ron

    in reply to: Editing SysEx Parameters #16925
    eclairon
    Participant

    Hi Mart

    Tried your suggestion and …… no πŸ˜₯ πŸ˜₯ πŸ˜₯

    Every parameter that I use, with the exception of sysex, I can edit no problem and yes, it would be good to be able to edit directly in the event list view.

    One of my problems is that I am new to Podium so I can’t assume to much at this moment in time on the inner workings of the program – I have to seek guidance from you gurus but from my few days of use I much prefer it to my other DAW software.

    Ah well, I’ll keep trying πŸ˜€

    Ron

    in reply to: Editing SysEx Parameters #16923
    eclairon
    Participant

    Hello thcilnnahoj

    Thanks for the prompt reply and your suggestions which I tried without success πŸ™

    In the Inspector View the list of parameters show as either ‘SysEx: Unknown’ or ‘SysEx: Yamaha’, however, in the Event View the full data chain for any event is shown but with the exception of being able to delete the event I am unable to achieve any other type of edit πŸ™ πŸ™

    Again, thanks for your help and I guess I will wait for any other suggestions.

    Ron

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