Topic: Bouncing to the same track

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March 28, 2007 at 23:10 #1232

sam c
Participant

i just bounced a vox track by enabling audio bouncing on the vox track. i put fx on the track, hit R and B and it bounced the vox track to the same track. is there any problems with doing this….? am i better off bouncing to a new empty track?

March 29, 2007 at 00:51 #9622

Zynewave
Keymaster

Hmm, that really shouldn’t be possible. If you have any sound events on a bounce enabled track, then those are muted as long as the B button is turned off. So bounce recording or rendering this should produce silence. Are you sure that actually did the bouncing? Pressing B will only toggle the bounce state of the track.

March 29, 2007 at 12:36 #9624

sam c
Participant

i had the B button turned on. i’ll double check today but i am pretty sure this worked as i described.

March 29, 2007 at 13:05 #9625

Zynewave
Keymaster

You need to Ctrl+Click the B button or press the Ctrl+B key shortcut to perform the bounce render. A dialog will appear showing the bounce render progress. Pressing the B button will do nothing but toggle muting of either the bounce track or the tracks below the bounce track.

March 29, 2007 at 13:13 #9626

sam c
Participant

yes, i turned on the r button and clicked cntrl b. the track was replaced by the track with fx. i will recheck a little later but i removed the fx from the newly rendered track and the fx were there. leading me to believe i rendered a track to the same track erasing the original file?

March 29, 2007 at 16:14 #9628

Zynewave
Keymaster

The only way I can imagine this could be done, is if you have the same vox sound on a child track of the bounce track. Let me know how you did it, if you can reproduce it.

March 29, 2007 at 19:37 #9642

sam c
Participant

i can confirm this.

here is the scenario. the 12th track is a vox. it also has two tracks after it. if i enable audio bounce on this vox track, click R and cntrl B it bounces the track to itself. or, overwrites the original track with the new track.
when i hit cntrl B you can see all other tracks mute, the bounce track shows solo, and records the new material over the old.

i even removed the fx from the track entirely to be sure. it is definitely a new track on the original.

edit-i do find some anamolies in the wav file though. it sounds a little off when i solo it to listen closely. i guess this is not the way to do it!

March 30, 2007 at 00:52 #9644

Zynewave
Keymaster

the 12th track is a vox. it also has two tracks after it.

Are the two tracks child tracks of the 12th vox track?

Is the vox sound placed anywhere else in the arrangement as a phantom copy, i.e. is there a ‘+’ icon next to the sound name?

I followed your instructions, but all I get is silence when I bounce render.

Anyway, it’s not the recommended way to bounce. You can only do it once, and you destroy your original vox sound. Furthermore, the bounced audio will be stored with the bit-resolution of your vox sound, which probably is 16 or 24 bit. New sounds you create on dedicated bounce tracks use the bit-resolution of the engine (32 or 64 bit floating point) to preserve the full bit resolution of the engine output.

March 30, 2007 at 13:41 #9649

sam c
Participant

@Zynewave wrote:

the 12th track is a vox. it also has two tracks after it.

Are the two tracks child tracks of the 12th vox track?

Is the vox sound placed anywhere else in the arrangement as a phantom copy, i.e. is there a ‘+’ icon next to the sound name?

no child tracks.

yes, a phantom copy does show up. and there are definitely problems associated with the wav file. maybe the bit depth as you suggest. i can duplicate this over and over but as you say, it is no the right way so i will not do it!

thanks

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