Topic: Can someone explain the Quantization/Adjust Timing to me?

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  • #25104
    joemans
    Participant

    Sorry, this might kinda seem like a noob question, but it’s one of the few features I can’t really grasp. Anything from quantize mode to strength, sensitivity, randomize,or swing would help. And are there any settings you recommend generally? Thanks in advance!

    #25105
    Levendis
    Participant

    Hit the Help button for explicit instructions

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    This is the Adjust Timing dialogue. It can be invoked via the Edit menu or right-click menu on events. It is available for audio and midi events on tracks, as well as note and automation events in editors.

    Basically, the quantize functions allow you to tighten-up performance timing. Strength, sensitivity, randomize and swing allow some of the original timing to be preseved. At full influence, the selected events will align exactly to the prescribed tempo division (Grid).

    This tool does not behave like a groove machine. Rhythmic patterns can be imported into both the note and automation editor as MIDI files. But not be applied to existing events.

    If you’d like to match alignments of notes, which are off the grid, use the keyboard commands Ctrl+Q and Ctrl+W. This places the edit cursor at the start (Ctrl+Q) and ends (Ctrl+W) of selected events. Subsequently, moving events will snap to the grid and edit cursor.

    I hope you found this helpful joemans.

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    #25107
    adimatis
    Participant

    Hi,

    Is there a way to quantize the length of the notes, so the overlap can be prevented? I did not find a way, in Podium Free… I might’ve just missed it.

    #25108
    Levendis
    Participant

    Hi adimatis,

    adimatis wrote:
    Is there a way to quantize the length of the notes, so the overlap can be prevented?

    I don’t believe so. A Make notes legato would be a handy process.

    The overlaps can be useful.
    If an instrument patch is in polyphony mode, the overlapped note is sure to use the next voice. Initiating modulations relevant to that voice.
    If an instrument patch is in monophonic mode, the overlapped note will produce a modulation to the 1 voice. An example is when using portamento. Another is when the first note initiates an amplitude envelope, and the second (overlapped) note doesn’t.

    If you want to slice notes to align note’s on/off do the following:
    Say you have 2 notes. The first overlaps the second. You want to reposition the note off of the first so that it meets the note on of the second:

      Select the 2nd note.
      Ctrl+Q – to move the edit cursor to its note on position.
      Select the 1st note.
      Hit Ctrl+T – to split the (selected) 1st note at the edit cursor position.
      Delete the new note, leftover from the split.
    #25109
    adimatis
    Participant

    Thanks Levendis.

    Of course there are workarounds. Mine was to simply redraw the offending notes, or simply adjust their length, and of course most of the times overlapping is alright, but at times a length quantize would be very useful. Without it is just a… lengthier process! 😉

    All the best!

    Adi

    #25111
    Levendis
    Participant

    Here I have a note sequence. The notes are of various lengths and positioned loosely around the grid.

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    With the right settings, the notes can be rigidly quantized (snapped to grid).

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    Oddly, the min.Sensitivity has more influence at 0% ?!…

    #25113
    adimatis
    Participant

    Thank you, it’s working!
    I did play around with Adjust Timing, but obviously not enough! 😉
    Nice! I appreciate your advice and example Levendis.

    It just proves that Podium indeed is great. And it’s users too!

    Adi

    #25119
    joemans
    Participant

    Yeah, this helps a lot, thanks! Can you also quantize audio recordings, or will that probably not yield any results?

    #25121
    Levendis
    Participant

    Hello joemans,

    Yes, quantize operations do work on audio events. But there are some things to consider.

    Here is a drum loop that I wish to manually beat slice…
    Drum Loop

    I engage loop and tune to the region I wish to isolate.
    Set Loop Region

    Hit A on the keyboard, to toggle snap to off, or Shift+click+drag the loop range handles (start/end), to temporarily disengage snap (this also works on events).
    This allows sample accurate placement of handles – the highest resolution of the sound file. Useful for finding zero-crossings. Although, it is not necessary given fades can be applied to sound events.
    Zoom in on sample

    Ctrl+Q will reposition the edit cursor to the previous event.
    Ctrl+W will reposition the edit cursor to the next event.
    The edit cursor will jump to the ends of, selected events, loop ends, segment ends – whichever comes first.
    I reposition the edit cursor to the ends of the loop range and hit Ctrl+T to split the drum loop sample at those points.
    Split at Loop Region's ends
    I now have a hit isolated.

    Now, this is where some issues arise.

    If I use the Adjust Timing tool there is the possibility of ruining my efforts so far. At full influence, the audio event is moved to snap to the grid and its length is adjusted. Below, the start of my split has moved to align with the grid and the event length has increased to equal the quantize unit length (grid). As the audio event references the whole drum loop, its increased length leads to the inclusion of the start of the next drum hit.
    Quantize after split
    Resize the event, or apply a hard fade shape to remove it. Better still…

    To prevent this, right-click the isolated event (split drum hit) and select Convert to Unique Cropped Copy before using the Adjust Timing tool. The sound event can be snapped and its length adjusted, but it will only hold the audio isolated in the split (drum hit). The unique cropped copy will create a new sound file in:
    [current project folder] > [current arrangement folder] when you next save the project.

    Alternatively, you could use the Beat Slice tool to perform these edits. Quantize operations have the same implications, as described above.

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