Topic: EnergyXT Sub host VST and midi FX

I’ve never had a problem using energyXT 1.x. The newer version, 2.x, I have not really tried, so I can’t say if it’s worse or not.

@druid wrote:

I’ve never had a problem using energyXT 1.x. The newer version, 2.x, I have not really tried, so I can’t say if it’s worse or not.

V1 works, but V2 causes a lot of problems, which is a pity, because the internal Seq offers a quite good audio timestreching…

What can you suggest?

Errm. Use midi notes to play the VSTi instead of the other way round?

and I might even like to have two VSTi’s together in some manner.

Load two VSTi’s on onto separate tracks then copy and paste the midi clip. Works the same as any other copy — editing one instance changes them all.

I’d like to be able to use FX on VSTi’s

Am I missing something here? I use VST effects on my midi tracks the same way I do on audio tracks.

can someone please post here any/all subhosts and/or sequencers that actually DO work inside Podium without causing it a fit, freeze or crash???

I tried out the Computer Music version of ADM the other day. That’s a drum machine with a built in sequencer. It worked fine.

Podium’s piano roll editor is also a sequencer — and a pretty good one at that. It works for me most of the time. Personally, I prefer it.

I think you’re getting frustrated because you’re trying to work against Podium rather than with it.

Thanks for your suggestions, kim, but, yes, I think you are missing something here. I think if you had a little familiarity with how things work in other DAWs, it would help some. It’s something I noticed in some of the other threads, too, but no matter for now. But all I’m really trying to do is what every other damn DAW allows these days.

You see, I don’t want to be making workarounds here — no copying clips and having VSTi on two tracks, etc, etc. In fact, that creates something much different than when you blend instruments and FX together on one track with one output. Besides, I’m really finished with the whole workaround monkey business.

The other bit — yes, many FX, namely here the Fretted Synth collection and related types, will take the instrument audio input and create a MIDI track, then output that to track. Of course, Podium won’t let the MIDI be recorded, as usual.

So one solution is to use a subhost, where I can do many of these things within it, without Podium’s knowledge or interference. I’ll try to get the ADM you mentioned. The last drum unit I tried, Podium would only allow the kit to be recorded in mono or stereo, all the parts mixed into one. You see, you can’t do the most basic things, such as compress your snare or similar work with the kick if your DAW shoves everything together and won’t map the unit’s multiple outs. That’s just plain crazy. So far I’ve managed to download the much older version of the energyXT sequencer/subhost and, since they said the older version works in Podium, will try that one.

Anyone have any other subhosts that are known to work without trouble in Podium???

Wow, thanks, Trancit, for your help on all counts! Fortunately, they still offer the XT in the older edition, and I just looked over the MuTools website. I hadn’t been to that one in a long while.

As for the rest, I’m afraid it was a combination of factors with multiple outs on plugins. I came to Podium spoiled rotten from a couple of other DAWs and recently REAPER only made things worse. Except for those few plugins that will not divulge their In and Out information to a DAW, these other automatically set everything up when scanning the plugins. Also, although I’d read the Guide twice and checked out most of the tut videos, the Guide left me half confused and, worst of all, I think I somehow missed that one crucial video of those three that really explains things for numbering outputs and so on.

Here’s how easy some make this process:

(drop-down menu) Insert VSTi to New Track?

(click) Yes

(dialog opens) Do You Want This Multiple Output Plugin set up for Mono, Stereo, or all 16 (or whatever it has) Outputs?

(click) Yes on 16

(result) group folder with device at top and 8 child tracks for each stereo pair of outputs — ready to go!

It just took me 10 times as long to write that as it actually takes to set up!

Anyhow, thanks a million. Your info helps a lot!

Cheers!

@djshaun101 wrote:

Also Found a newer version
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0200
2.6 VSTi

Works a treat 😀 Now I can continue to work on tracks started in XT.

I have it now but haven’t had time to try it. What are the limitations of the unlicensed version of it?