CDLMonline.
druidWindows 7 itself, if sounds are enabled, will use the sound drivers as well. When Podium opens, no programs should be open that will use sound, except Windows, but Windows must not be playing a sound when you open Podium and Podium takes the driver.
It is unclear why VST Host works and Podium does not. I’m going to assume you are not running VST Host first, and then Podium? (I know, stupid question, I’m sure you’re not!)
For Podium to not be able to use it though does mean something else is using it. You could take a screen shot of your task manager, with the processes tab selected, and that might help identify some processes that could tie the sound drivers up.
thcilnnahojI don’t think the problem is that some program is blocking the sound card… as you can see in the screenshot, Podium just can’t access the in/out channels when using ASIO4ALL – why it works fine in VST Host, I have no idea at the moment. 🙁
Windows-wise I personally use Vista 32-bit, but I’ll try on a Windows 7 64-bit machine soon!
CDLMonlineokay thanks for all your help!!
I really have no idea too what could be the problem…
Here are the pic of my processes.. maybe you’ll find something I can try to close.
I made 2 pics because my processes would not fit into 1 pic
In the 2nd pic there are 2 more processes but I don’t think relevant ones because I just opened up IrfanView.. for screenshots.. (don’t know why it needs 2 processes instead of only one..)
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druidDifficult indeed! There are several processes there that are not “needed”, but I don’t think they would really tie up your sound. You could try and end the RAVCpl64.exe process, but if VST Host works with it there, I don’t see why Podium wouldn’t. You could also close the Teamviewer application. For security reasons, I would typically recommend only opening that when you need it, anyway, though you may have already worked out your sertup and are happy with it, naturally.
I’ll add that I’m also running Windows 7 64-bit, and have had no issues like this.
CDLMonline@druid wrote:
Difficult indeed! There are several processes there that are not “needed”, but I don’t think they would really tie up your sound. You could try and end the RAVCpl64.exe process, but if VST Host works with it there, I don’t see why Podium wouldn’t. You could also close the Teamviewer application. For security reasons, I would typically recommend only opening that when you need it, anyway, though you may have already worked out your sertup and are happy with it, naturally.
I’ll add that I’m also running Windows 7 64-bit, and have had no issues like this.
okay thanks 😀
yeah I really dont know too why it does not work in podium but in VST host it works…
About teamviewer & other processes:
they are started by themselves when windows is starting & they are hidden… I am always trying to avoid such processes but it is often really hard..
I’ll try to install podium on windows xp… I have got Win XP & Win 7 on my laptop 😀
I’ll tell you if it will work there..
CDLMonlineOkay I installed Podium Free on Windows XP…
Asio4All worked… but I had to put buffer-size at 2048 samples and use hardware buffer! otherwise it would have sound just like noise (shhhhhhhhhh)
I plugged in my midi-keyboard and it worked without any problems 😀
Then I tried to use normal windows drivers without asio and it worked too without problems…
So as you can see now I dont need Asio to use my midi keyboard…. (still funny that Asio works on VST host but not on Zynewave podium…)
I think I am going to uninstall Zynewave Podium and install it again.
If this does not work again.. maybe I’ll think about reinstalling windows 7….
please tell me about your ideas and what you can read out of my reports….
I’ll tell you guys if it works..
CDLMonlineah something else:
It is interesting that in Windows 7 the midi keyboard is detected in Zynewave Podium as “Hua Xing” (I think that are the drivers of the keyboard)
And in Windows XP it is detected as “USB Audio Device”
CDLMonlinereinstalling podium did not help anything on win7 🙁
But podium did not even loose it’s configuration… everything was again like before..
I think it could work maybe if it would be uninstalled completely without that configurations or anything are still saved…
I think there must have been a mistake at one time… and now this mistake will last for ever…
How can I uninstall podium completely without that there is anything left?
kingtubby@CDLMonline wrote:
How can I uninstall podium completely without that there is anything left?
You probably need to delete podium.ini which resides in C:Users…AppDataRoamingZynewavePodium
Edit: that’s on Vista, though may be similar on W7
CDLMonline@kingtubby wrote:
@CDLMonline wrote:
How can I uninstall podium completely without that there is anything left?
You probably need to delete podium.ini which resides in C:Users…AppDataRoamingZynewavePodium
Edit: that’s on Vista, though may be similar on W7
hm… I deleted the podium.ini file & then reinstalled podium & asio4all but the problems are exactly the same with ASIO & with the MIDI keyboard..
I think if no one can find a solution..
I’ll either have to:
– reinstalll windows 7
or
-use Podium on Windows XP & reinstall many plugins too.
Because the problem is that all my plugins are installed in Win7… (yes… some of them you have to install!) and they won’t work all perfect if they are installed in different OS..
please advice me what I should do…
THANKS!!
druidI’m sorry but I’m not sure what else to try, other than looking on your computer myself (I use TeamViewer as well :)).
On that note, TeamViewer has an option that you can disable, which is not to load on startup. Then, you shouldn’t have that process, if you’d like to avoid that! It’s under Extras->Options->General->Start TeamViewer with Windows. If you go to Security->Windows logon, and disable that, it could also help prevent it. Obviously if TeamViewer can be used to login to Windows, it must already be running on startup, though I haven’t tested and can’t confirm that is the case.
I have to admit I don’t think reinstalling Windows 7 will resolve your issue. Even reinstalling XP often does not solve issues unless the hardware itself is faulty (and then the issue will just come back later). I’d save yourself the effort, if I were you!
CDLMonline@druid wrote:
I’m sorry but I’m not sure what else to try, other than looking on your computer myself (I use TeamViewer as well :)).
On that note, TeamViewer has an option that you can disable, which is not to load on startup. Then, you shouldn’t have that process, if you’d like to avoid that! It’s under Extras->Options->General->Start TeamViewer with Windows. If you go to Security->Windows logon, and disable that, it could also help prevent it. Obviously if TeamViewer can be used to login to Windows, it must already be running on startup, though I haven’t tested and can’t confirm that is the case.
I have to admit I don’t think reinstalling Windows 7 will resolve your issue. Even reinstalling XP often does not solve issues unless the hardware itself is faulty (and then the issue will just come back later). I’d save yourself the effort, if I were you!
okay… I’ll send you a message about teamviewer…
& of course I am going to disable the autostart of teamviewer 😀 thx!!
hm okay… I don’t know if you read everything but the thing is that on Windows XP (that’s my 2nd OS my laptop) asio & my keyboard work without any problems!!
Edit:
I read on the ASIO4ALL page or in the ASIO4ALL manual… (can’t remember) that you should try to use always Windows Drivers for USB devices..
And when I connected my keyboard on Win XP, podium showed it as “USB Audio Device” (that could be the normal Windows driver!!!)
but on Windows 7, podium showed my keyboard as “Hua Xing” (I guess that’s the keyboard usb driver…)
Maybe that’s the problem..
CDLMonlineOk if nobody gets a solution I’ll just use podium only on Windows XP…
WinXP will be like my producing DAW 🙂 I think its even better than Win7 because WinXP’s system does not take as many resources away as the one of Win7..
And I’ll uninstall all unnecessary programs on WinXP (no games, no instant messenger)… only the most important features … (for example internet browser… I guess I could need it often if I have to look up something..)
thcilnnahoj@CDLMonline wrote:
So as you can see now I dont need Asio to use my midi keyboard…. (still funny that Asio works on VST host but not on Zynewave podium…)
Sorry if what I wrote was misleading – of course you don’t need ASIO to use your keyboard! It’s just that standard Windows sound drivers have terrible performance compared to ASIO drivers. You’ll be able to have far more tracks/plug-ins playing at once if you use them. All professional or semi-pro sound card manufacturers (RME, M-Audio, etc.) provide their own ASIO drivers. ASIO4All is just a generic driver that, unfortunately, doesn’t always work without problems, as we see here… 😉
Also, it’s possible to achieve much lower latency (die Verzögerung zwischen dem Tastendruck auf deinem Keyboard und dem Erklingen des Tons aus dem Computer – hast du bestimmt schon bemerkt :wink:) with ASIO drivers. This depends on the buffer size you have selected in the driver options – maybe you know about it already.
I’m sorry, I really can’t figure out what the problem with your sound card and keyboard could be… Like I said, I’ll be back in Vienna around the 20th. I could come by and take a look if you want but I can’t promise I’ll be able to make it work. 🙁
If you have time and feel comfortable doing it, I’d say try re-installing Windows 7, especially if your current installation was done by the computer manufacturer.
CDLMonlineokay thanks @thcilnnahoj