Zynewave.
dagabondHello,
I am using a BCF2000 as control surface which works great, except when I am looping a clip and adjusting parameters, the adjustments are recorded and then played back (motorized faders take over) when the clip is looped.
Muting parameter tracks does not stop it from occurring. Could you please help me troubleshoot? Alternatively, Is it possible to prevent parameter tracks from recording while adjusting parameters during playback?
Thank you
kingtubbyI’m not too sure to be honest, as I’ve never done what you are asking, but if you go to preferences under the setup menu, then select the ‘play/record’ tab and under ‘record enabled midi messages’ uncheck the control change and sysex boxes. As I say, I don’t really know but it might be worth a try…
dagabondThanks for the suggestion – sounds look it would work but it didn’t, I think because control surfaces are separate from other MIDI input. I realized I should specify that muting the parameter tracks does actually work for keeping values constant, but the motor faders still move, so I cannot use them to continue to change values.
ZynewaveThe faders will always sync to the value on the parameter track at the cursor position, so you cannot use them to edit plugin parameters without affecting the parameter track. The real MCU has touch-sensitive faders, so once you touch a fader, it will stop moving the fader and record your actions. On devices that do not have touch-sense you can press & hold the channel record arm buttons to simulate touching the faders.
dagabondMy BCF2000 is not set up to control record arm, but I tried with the mouse on both the parameter and audio/midi tracks and it does not affect it.
dagabondIs it possible to disable recording of fader movements but still allow control as if playback is paused? I am trying to create static presets, and do not necessarily need to automate values over time.
Zynewave@dagabond wrote:
My BCF2000 is not set up to control record arm, but I tried with the mouse on both the parameter and audio/midi tracks and it does not affect it.
It is only the control surface hardware rec. arm buttons that support this simulated fader touch.
Is it possible to disable recording of fader movements but still allow control as if playback is paused? I am trying to create static presets, and do not necessarily need to automate values over time.
Sorry, no. Once you’ve set up a parameter track, its corresponding fader is locked to the track curve.
dagabondOk, thank you, I will get it mapped to the record button.
I am overwhelmingly impressed with Podium. Excellent work!!
dagabondThis is working for me, but it constricts use to one hand. I’d like to control 4-5 faders at once. Would you consider changing this to when record is enabled on a parameter track? Presently I see no impact when record is enabled or not since parameters always respond to faders.
ZynewaveYou mean you would want the faders to stop moving at all when the track is in record mode? I am not keen on that idea. The benefit with touch-sensing faders is that you are able to grab the moving faders to start adjusting the parameter value on the fly.
dagabondYes, but does it matter if it’s toggle on/off rather than hold for on?
dagabondjust each parameter tracks individually, not the actual track they are under. If I have 3 faders that aren’t right next to each other, I’ve got to use one hand to hole three buttons and my remaining hand won’t be able to move all three faders if they aren’t real close. This is all even assuming that I’m able to change the record to a single button because right now on the BF2000 MCU it’s like a shift function, where I have to use one hand for the shift so the button becomes the record button, then my other handle holds that record button and I can really only use one single other finger to move the fader.
Zynewave@dagabond wrote:
Yes, but does it matter if it’s toggle on/off rather than hold for on?
That could be made optional, but I’m afraid that I won’t have time to revise this behaviour in the near future. There are tons of other features that needs attention first.
dagabondOk, that’s fine. Could you make note of it or should I submit it as a request somewhere? I am surprised a change like that wouldn’t be quick, but I understand. I really look forward to the change though, because otherwise, I’m limited to one or two faders at once whereas it would make a huge difference to my workflow to be able to balance drum sounds for example, where I have room mics, ambient mics, overheads, many close, etc. and really need to move them all at once since the sounds interact.
Sorry to sound so negative.. I’m finding Podium amazing (intuitive, simple but powerful, lightweight, aesthetically great), but this aspect isn’t working for me. I also noticed that when I switch presets, the motorized faders don’t update to reflect the setting. Would there be an issue with locking faders to the actual parameter settings instead of the recorded automation data, and then having recording optional? It’s like audio.. sometimes I’d like to have it play while I monitor a guitar coming through, but don’t necessarily want it to record, especially if I’m looping a section and having a player practice a part over and over.. I don’t want it to record and then play back the next time over.
With parameter tracks, I’m always looping clips and dialing in sounds, so things are still always going to jump back to what’s recorded at the beginning when the clip loops, so no matter what I have to make note of the settings at the end of the clip and then manually dial them in individually at the start of the clip and delete all the automation.
Zynewave@dagabond wrote:
I also noticed that when I switch presets, the motorized faders don’t update to reflect the setting. Would there be an issue with locking faders to the actual parameter settings instead of the recorded automation data, and then having recording optional?
The parameter track faders are locked to the value on the track, which does not necessarily correspond to unrecorded edits made in the plugin. I think what you really want is a way to edit plugin parameters without having them assigned to parameter tracks. This is something I originally planned as an extension to the current MCU support in Podium. Currently you can only adjust gain/pan/parameter tracks. This could be extended with the use of some of the mode buttons on MCU, to include bus sends and plugin parameters. However, since there are very few users that will find this useful, I fear it is going to be years before I find time to add this support.