Topic: Preview: Beat slice

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March 10, 2007 at 02:30 #1173

Zynewave
Keymaster

Just three days ago this wasn’t even on my future plan for this year. In my ongoing quest for creating a decent time-stretch algo I experimented with transient detection, and I figured it would not be too much work to use this to implement simple beat slicing in Podium. Right-click a sound event (drum loop or whatever) and there is a new “Beat Slice…” command in the menu:

Sensitivity controls how many slices you want. Enabling preview will apply the slicing realtime when changing the sensitivity value. Pressing Cancel will then undo the previewed slicing.

Anyone find this useful?

March 10, 2007 at 03:45 #9194

darcyb62
Participant

Very nice… And not more than two days I realized I could use such a feature.

March 10, 2007 at 08:49 #9195

Technophobia
Participant

Most definitely a +10 from me. Keep up the research on time-stretch, it’s yielding great results. 🙂

March 10, 2007 at 11:25 #9196

haiku
Participant

awesome!

Can you add a small attack fade in and release fade out to the beginning and end of the slices to correct clicks?

March 10, 2007 at 11:46 #9197

Podianer
Participant

Looks very promising! 🙂

March 10, 2007 at 12:49 #9198

Conquistador
Participant

Wow! The range of your development skills is pretty amazing. The speed maybe even more so. 😯

Right-click a sound event (drum loop or whatever) and there is a new “Beat Slice…” command in the menu:

Right clicking to find an option like that is right down my street, quick, simple and easy.

Anyone find this useful?

Useful? It will be extremely useful to have built in beat slicing in Podium. 🙂

I like Haiku’s idea (if it will be necessary)…

Can you add a small attack fade in and release fade out to the beginning and end of the slices to correct clicks?

Testing the waters here as I don’t know how far you want to go with it but…might there be some way to re arrange slices as well?

It just gets better. Well done! 8)

March 10, 2007 at 15:50 #9199

swindus
Participant

This is great!

March 10, 2007 at 16:12 #9200

Jaegerteam
Participant

Slicing? Yeah, great!!! 8)

March 10, 2007 at 17:40 #9201

Zynewave
Keymaster

Can you add a small attack fade in and release fade out to the beginning and end of the slices to correct clicks?

Crossfading is applied to the detected build-up of the transient. A minimum crossfade time would however be good to avoid clicks with abrupt transients. Maybe I’ll add a “Minimum slice crossfade time” user setting to the beat slice dialog.

Testing the waters here as I don’t know how far you want to go with it but…might there be some way to re arrange slices as well?

The individual slices are just ordinary sound events, so you can use the usual tools and commands for arranging sound events. I don’t intend to add any special editing commands for beat sliced sounds. Not at this point at least.

March 10, 2007 at 19:50 #9202

psylevation
Participant

😯 Oh my! You just happen across beat slicing?! hehe! sweet, this is great, I find this very very helpful. 😀

Cheers,

~Airyck~

March 10, 2007 at 22:49 #9203

Doug B
Participant

@Zynewave wrote:

implement simple beat slicing in Podium.

Anyone find this useful?

What the heck is a beat slicer and why would I ever want one?

Is that that st-st-st-st-uddering effect?
🙄

March 10, 2007 at 23:17 #9204

Zynewave
Keymaster

What the heck is a beat slicer and why would I ever want one?

Beat slicing is mostly for people who like to use libraries of prepared drumloops. Beat slicing a drumloop does not by itself change the sound, but once you have sliced the individual beats you can quantize or manually move the beats around to change the timing of the loop. This has no ugly artifacts compared to time-stretching which slightly warps the sound. Having the beats split up also allows you to e.g. move kick, snare drum, hihats etc. to separate tracks with individual effects processing.

March 11, 2007 at 00:27 #9205

Doug B
Participant

@Zynewave wrote:

What the heck is a beat slicer and why would I ever want one?

Beat slicing is mostly for people who like to use libraries of prepared drumloops. Beat slicing a drumloop does not by itself change the sound, but once you have sliced the individual beats you can quantize or manually move the beats around to change the timing of the loop. This has no ugly artifacts compared to time-stretching which slightly warps the sound. Having the beats split up also allows you to e.g. move kick, snare drum, hihats etc. to separate tracks with individual effects processing.

Ahhh, ok. Thanks Frits. I don’t use loops, probably why I’ve never heard of beat slicing. Sounds like a way of preparing your vegtables for dinner/supper! 😆

8)

March 11, 2007 at 09:40 #9206

francois
Participant

Dont use drum loops , but with this feature , may be i will 😉

March 11, 2007 at 14:49 #9210

Conquistador
Participant

@Zynewave wrote:

The individual slices are just ordinary sound events, so you can use the usual tools and commands for arranging sound events. I don’t intend to add any special editing commands for beat sliced sounds. Not at this point at least.

Thats cool. Either way it is a huge step in the right direction. 8)