Topic: Preview: New project start page

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  • August 14, 2006 at 21:21 #901
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    After a couple of months of tedious coding with optimizations and other non-UI updates, I needed to do something fun. I’ve created a new project start page which should help newcomers getting started with Podium. It is equally usable for experienced users. Eventually this could replace the project wizard completely, with a nicer UI.


    The background image is a wallpaper I loaded in the project properties dialog. The round button in the upper right corner toggles between the start page and the old style project browser page with the toolbar.

    Any opinions or ideas? Would you use this instead of the old browser page?

    August 14, 2006 at 21:35 #7268
    darcyb62
    Participant

    I think this is awesome and the funny thing is that just a couple of days ago I was thinking that although the current project page works quite well you can’t really get a lot of information on it. An explorer-type navigation with drop downs would streamline things quite a bit. And there it is…

    When will this be available?

    August 14, 2006 at 21:37 #7269
    Podianer
    Participant

    Now THAT looks stylish! I like the transparency..

    Are the boxes scalable? I have a 15,4″ widescreen display and I like to avoid scrolling. Could you also give a screenshot with a higher resolution please?

    Nice ideas!!

    Max

    August 14, 2006 at 21:44 #7270
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    When will this be available?

    I still need to add a lot of functionality to the page, so hopefully a release will be ready in the weekend.

    Are the boxes scalable?

    Yes.

    Could you also give a screenshot with a higher resolution please?

    Perhaps I’ll upload a new screenshot later in the week, with the latest changes.

    August 15, 2006 at 14:40 #7274
    xis23
    Participant

    sexy 😈

    August 15, 2006 at 16:01 #7276
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Any opinions or ideas? Would you use this instead of the old browser page?

    Since you asked…

    The page looks great!

    I just cannot make out the text so it’s slightly frustrating as I cannot really make suggestions based on the image. But I will try…

    It is clear enough to see the idea behind it but I see in Column 1…

    The name of the project.

    This is very clear and stands out very well.

    I really like the File: area underneath the Recent projects box. This kind of detail is so rare in other hosts. Certainly not presented as clear as this, along side other essential project information. Very well thought out. Well done.

    The Recent projects section is also a great addition. I like to see the whole picture when working on an Album. I need to be able to see a large number of projects quickly and easily. This new look appears to offer just the kind of detail I want. Superb.

    However Frits…

    The File information is duplicated at the bottom of the first column of three in the image. Is there any purpose for this? As a suggestion I might only have one File info box and use maybe the lower one at the bottom of the Recent projects area for providing a few lines of information about the project bit depth e.t.c

    Mixing engine bit resolution

    New Sound Bit resolution

    Multiprocessing Enabled / Disabled

    Track limit in loop recording group

    Effectively the information that is available from the Audio tab in the Preferences section found under Setup.

    I think that would sit very nicely under the Recent projects area as there appears to be no need to duplicate the File info at the top and bottom of the first column of three in your tasty teaser image. 8)

    As for the second column…

    The Arrangements and Sounds is another fine idea. Looks clean and easy to access. Just how it should be. Very similar feel to the new Zynewave website.The information at the bottom of this column is absolutely fine.

    The third column Devices is also very clear. All very good. 🙂

    I do have however a few other suggestions that are not directly related to this new screen so I have started another thread so as not to confuse things here. But…they are I think defintely worth your serious consideration if people are to avoid seeing such a classy, easy to use and legible screen only to have the same user issues people have had before. Please see this thread…

    http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=903

    This page looks brilliant. The transparency looks great. What are the settings you used for that? I assume this sort of trasparency effect can already be done with the current version of Podium?

    Your design skills are so good it’s difficult to decide what to ask for regarding feature requests now, graphical aspects within Podium or other additional features, zsampler, clip fade, e.t.c choices choices! 😆

    August 15, 2006 at 20:11 #7282
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    The File information is duplicated at the bottom of the first column of three in the image. Is there any purpose for this?

    The bottom three property panels show info for the item selected in the list above. So the bottom file info is for the currently marked recent project, while the top file info is for the currently loaded project.

    The transparency looks great. What are the settings you used for that? I assume this sort of trasparency effect can already be done with the current version of Podium?

    I used the existing functionality that I have used for all other transparency effects in Podium.

    August 15, 2006 at 20:21 #7283
    Conquistador
    Participant

    The bottom three property panels show info for the item selected in the list above. So the bottom file info is for the currently marked recent project, while the top file info is for the currently loaded project.

    So thats why. Ok that makes sense.

    I used the existing functionality that I have used for all other transparency effects in Podium.

    Impressive 8)

    August 20, 2006 at 01:44 #7302
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    I’ve added a ‘create new project’ panel, that will replace the ‘quick setup’ command in the project wizard.

    Here’s a fullsize screenshot:

    http://www.zynewave.com/images/Screen6.png

    August 20, 2006 at 02:46 #7303
    darcyb62
    Participant

    sexy

    August 20, 2006 at 04:47 #7304
    Conquistador
    Participant

    Oh ho ho! Magnifico, Yes! 😀

    Frits this is stunning work! I can’t remember which screen it was, but it even looks similar to a Windows Vista screen shot I saw sometime ago, especially with the background image you chose. Lovely.8)

    Some minor suggestions…

    1.The buttons are quite central on the page. There is a good deal of space above them. Maybe it would be better to shift the buttons up to the top of the page as it seems a bit strange to be so centrally placed with so much space above it.

    No change to the order of buttons (leave them as they are vertically), but simply shift them all up to use up the space above them. Design wise it looks very stylish in that central position so it’s minor, but maybe, just maybe it might be better placed higher up the page.

    2.If this screen is to be used for new projects maybe the create button is better placed above the others? Actually no, I think I see your reason behind this…set project name first > then audio settings > then a VST plug in folder > then hit that lovely create button! Makes perfect sense. 8)

    This is soooooooooo much better than the other quick set up option which was not as clear as it could be for new users. This implementation has class written all over it. F-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c! 😀 Ease of use.

    I would like to see now how anyone can find that too hard to get into! It has to be the easiest project set up screen I have ever seen.

    Hopefully the other key elements will also be looked at in the Podium can be much easier to get into thread. This new page will get anyone past a new project set up.

    All too easy now, but once they get past that page I think it would be still be a very good idea (based on previous complaints from users finding it difficult to get started) to consider adding in some way, the suggestions I made in the “…be much easer” thread. Once that is done IMHO Podium will be one of, if not the easiest host to get started with surely!

    Some questions…

    1.How will this work with the Devices and Arrangements and Sounds columns or pages in your original screenshot?

    1a. I assume they will appear once a project is created from this new project page?

    2.Also is this the screen that will greet users who click on File > New project?

    2a.If not how do we bring up this new quick set up page?

    Currently the Project Wizard pops up when File > New project is chosen.

    August 20, 2006 at 08:46 #7305
    Podianer
    Participant

    Looks awesome!! Frits, you really should consider changing the default color scheme to the dark grey one you obviously like very much (I can tell that by the look at the screenshots you post here 🙂 ). It looks much more expensive and stylish. just imho.

    Can’t wait to see 1.66 🙂

    August 20, 2006 at 09:30 #7306
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    How will this work with the Devices and Arrangements and Sounds columns or pages in your original screenshot?

    The ‘create new project’ page will appear instead of the arrangement and the devices column when the project is empty. That happens when you use the ‘new project’ menu or when you delete all objects in the project.

    Also is this the screen that will greet users who click on File > New project?

    Yes.

    Frits, you really should consider changing the default color scheme to the dark grey one you obviously like very much (I can tell that by the look at the screenshots you post here ). It looks much more expensive and stylish. just imho.

    I’ve thought about that. Actually the color scheme used in this screenshot is dark green to match the greenish wallpaper. But the dark grey normally goes better with most wallpapers.

    August 20, 2006 at 12:20 #7307
    Conquistador
    Participant

    Thanks for the answers Frits. :mrgreen: Podium is heading in just the right direction IMHO.

    I think Podianer has a point about the default theme / colour scheme, which you appear to agree with. The darker theme seems more stylish. I prefer dark blue or dark green to grey though. Either way one of the darker themes may work better as the default setting.

    Did I say how much I like the new page designs? 😆 Fabuloso! :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen:

    August 20, 2006 at 12:28 #7308
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    @Conquistador wrote:

    Did I say how much I like the new page designs? 😆 Fabuloso! :mrgreen: 😀 :mrgreen:

    For added coolness, wait until you see the pulsating create button 8)

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