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  • #7364
    acousmod
    Participant

    7. I still think once the arrangement is created and a user is taken to the Editor / or arrange page, that this message should greet them first…
    Podium’s engine can be disabled allowing you to access the arrange page as normal. This is to avoid potential problems opening very heavy CPU projects. This is not a necessity but it it provides a user with an option to work on heavy CPU projects that might exceed available CPU resources. Would you like to enable Podiums engine / activate monitoring now? (Yes /no option should be visible as well)

    Only the first time and if the Help is turned on, I hope !!!

    I still think it is not a good idea to switch it off by default for new users especially. New blank projects are highly unlikely to have any mappings so having this on by default avoids confusing a new user when there is no sound.

    Agree…
    And if the project can’t be played, it will not be better to start manually or to have it started automatically…
    As already said somewhere, an option in the Preferences box would do the job.

    8. Icons for Arrangements and sounds. Right now there appears to be no way to differentiate between the two.

    Do you mean in the Browser window ?

    I still think the E button should be changed to VST, FX / INST or GUI as they are more descritpive than simply E. ?!?!?

    I don’t know, I personnaly have no problem with the E abbreviation for Edit. It is used in other hosts too.
    The only problem for me is that it appears only when the engine is on, and that the plugins disappear when the engine is off…

    #7365
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    1. Stickie notes for the first two columns: The New project and Arrangement and sounds columns have no stickie notes. I would like to be able to include notes for those columns.

    But there are stickie note buttons on the project properties panel, and the properties panel at the bottom of the arrangements column?

    I noticed that the E button still has no tooltip when the mouse cursor rolls over it. Yes, once a new project is created a message is displayed that tells a user what it does (great addition) but still I think a tooltip that will appear when a mouse cursor is over it, will also help. “Click the E button to open plug in Editors (Short cut E)” very short and simple…this text is taken from the other new message shown after a new project is made. I still think the E button should be changed to VST, FX / INST or GUI as they are more descritpive than simply E. ?!?!?

    E is short for Edit or Editor. It may extend its purpose if I later on add some feature for opening editors for external devices. If you hover over the E button in the track inspector you get a tooltip. I deliberately avoided tooltips over the buttons in the track headers because I think it would be too annoying with popups appearing constantly when you edit the tracks.

    4. B Bounce button tool tip:

    Again, there is a tooltip on the B button in the track inspector.

    I still think it is not a good idea to switch it off by default for new users especially. New blank projects are highly unlikely to have any mappings so having this on by default avoids confusing a new user when there is no sound.

    When you create a new arrangement then it by default has two tracks with audio input and an instrument/MIDI input track. I think I mention it in the ‘getting started’ chapter in the guide; that you should be careful with your monitoring levels when activating live audio inputs. That is why it is not turned on by default.

    Icons for Arrangements and sounds. Right now there appears to be no way to differentiate between the two.

    The icon for an arrangement is a score sheet, and the icon for a sound is an oceanic wave. Or are you talking about some place where the icons are not shown?

    #7366
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @acousmod wrote:

    Only the first time and if the Help is turned on, I hope !!!

    He he…I imagine if Frits is happy to do so then it should definitely be made optional.:wink:

    As already said somewhere, an option in the Preferences box would do the job.

    Agreed.

    Do you mean in the Browser window ?

    The new Devices column and the Map: properties screen / area in the track inspector. The icons used are not distinctive enough at all IMHO. Compare them to Tracktion for instance.

    I don’t know, I personnaly have no problem with the E abbreviation for Edit. It is used in other hosts too.

    For me it is not a problem either…anymore, but when I started using Podium this caused no end of confusion for me, many others got stuck there as well. I got past it, many could not be bothered and gave up. My concern is for new users. If there are not enough new users Podium cannot really grow…more new users means Podiums development is highly unlikely to cease at some point in the near future. 8)

    Most of my suggestions are to get more people to use Podium so that it can draw in more users. Everyone here benefits from this. 🙂

    The only problem for me is that it appears only when the engine is on, and that the plugins disappear when the engine is off..

    Maybe this too can be made optional. Additional options I think are necessary when a userbase increases and also to actually increase a userbase. The more people use a host the more diverse the opinions and feature requests are likely to be. Perhaps Frits can make this a global option of some sort. ❓

    #7369
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    But there are stickie note buttons on the project properties panel, and the properties panel at the bottom of the arrangements column?

    Totally ignore that, I got mixed up there sorry. 😆

    E is short for Edit or Editor. It may extend its purpose if I later on add some feature for opening editors for external devices. If you hover over the E button in the track inspector you get a tooltip. I deliberately avoided tooltips over the buttons in the track headers because I think it would be too annoying with popups appearing constantly when you edit the tracks.

    Aha…now if you intend to extend its purpose in future that is different. My suggestion was for it’s current purpose in the track view.

    Again, there is a tooltip on the B button in the track inspector.

    But not in the Track view or track header, really Frits, this is not as important to me as clip fades in Podium, but I think if more tooltips can be added at some point in future it will help new users, which of course helps you.

    Maybe I am so used to the implementation in Tracktion and Live, that I can see how more of the same will help in Podium. It’s not a high priority for me…really. Clip fades, Zcompressor, Zsampler and the chainer FX module (cannot remember how you described it now) are way higher priorities for me right now, probably in that order 🙂

    I have brought these recent requests up as you asked for suggestions in this specific area. 🙂

    When you create a new arrangement then it by default has two tracks with audio input and an instrument/MIDI input track. I think I mention it in the ‘getting started’ chapter in the guide;

    ..that is my point…mentioned in the getting started guide not an addtional tooltip that will be the first thing a new user will look for IMHO. Podium can be much easier to use…just trying to help you here 😉

    that you should be careful with your monitoring levels when activating live audio inputs. That is why it is not turned on by default.

    Fair enough. Your reasons make perfect sense but…the lack of sound was probably the no.1 reason people gave up during a now very old thread on KVR. No problem for me Frits, not anymore. Just new users. I will have to let the new user thing slide a bit, as I don’t want it to come across the wrong way. Besides I have many of my own requests that I have not even made yet! 🙂

    The icon for an arrangement is a score sheet, and the icon for a sound is an oceanic wave. Or are you talking about some place where the icons are not shown?

    No you have got it right. I think in the Devices column and the Map properties area where the icons are small they look very similar. They could be more distinctive.

    #7373
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Some ideas for device pictures:
    MIDI input: The 5-pin MIDI cable plug.
    Audio input: A microphone.
    Audio output: A speaker or headphones.
    External effect: Picture of a rack unit with visible screwholes 😉
    External instrument: Picture of a keyboard.

    All the above sound like good ideas to me. 8)

    Plugin effect/instrument: A bit trickier. Any ideas?

    How about a simple VSTFX and VSTI icon for FX and instruments? It is not really a straightforward process picking an icon for these two, but I think the suggestions are obvious, logical and simple. 8)

    Why not post any initial images you have for new icons if that is okay with you. 8)

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