Topic: Problem with Jamstix

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  • #5464
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    I noticed another thing with your project: There is no JamStix device definition object. That means all your JamStix mappings for individual input/output and MIDI channels are separate instances. The device definition is needed to tie together the mappings to one instance. If you are using more than one of these mappings on the tracks, then this can explain the erratic behaviour. I’ve managed to crash JamStix if I use more than one instance.

    Try deleting the JamStix mappings folder and reimport the plugin. That should give you the required device definition. Let me know if this changes anything.

    Edit: Actually the device definition object is in your project, but is not assigned to the JamStix mappings 😕 Did you create the JamStix mappings manually?

    #5465
    Podianer
    Participant

    Today I installed Podium 1.39, and tried the new “import plugIn button”. Before that I deleted Jamstix in my project. Now I have the correct device definition. I only use Jamstix once in an arrangement.. it’s quite hungry for CPU even in other hosts… but the spikes on the 1st beat only appear here.. (btw. 1.39 is nice!!)

    #5467
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    but the spikes on the 1st beat only appear here..

    So it spikes on the first beat in every bar? Try inserting a tempo event in Podium with a time signature of 3/4. Still spikes on every bar start?

    #5468
    Podianer
    Participant

    Still spikes on every bar start?

    YES! 🙁

    #5469
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    YES!

    And I assume the behaviour doesn’t change if you change the tempo? What if you insert tempo changes on the timeline, are the spikes still aligned to bar starts?

    #5470
    Podianer
    Participant

    Tempo changes.. Tempo events… I tried them all out… But no positive effect…

    #5473
    Podianer
    Participant

    I found a way to make the spikes go away.. Seems that the internal Jamstix engine uses too much cpu.. When using Jamstix only as drum sample player, the average usage is 10 %. It’s that low only when playing a few samples.. the more the sampler plays several samples at one time, the more cpu (up to 90 % and higher) uses Jamstix/Podium.. So it’s rather a problem Jamstix has, and not Podium.. 😕 I try to contact Zauni (Jamstix dev) if he has an idea, why the internal sampler uses that much cpu with my configuration..

    The fact that the spikes occur on the first beat is maybe related to the fact, that on the first beat there are often more samples played..

    #5861
    darcyb62
    Participant

    Another question regarding Jamstix and Podium…

    I’ve noticed a couple of differences with how Jamstix loads in Podium as compared to Tracktion. I do prefer the way it works in tracktion, but I may not be doing it quite right within Podium.

    The 1st thing difference relates to when I bring Jamstix into a project. With Tracktion it seems to pre-load everything so that when I hit the play button it goes. With Podium, Jamstix is in the project but doesn’t load until you hit the play button. You then have a bit of a delay while it loads the samples before it goes.

    The 2nd difference has to do with how Jamstix arrangements are loaded. With Tracktion, when I open a project that has been saved with Jamstix, when I re-open that project, the Jamstix arrangement is automatically opened. I don’t have to save the arrangement nor do I have to do anything special to re-open it. Trscktion seems to look after that rather well. With Podium, once Jamstix has been started as done per above, the arranment material isn’t there. It seems the only for wme to re-open an arrangement is to save the arrangement within Jamstix before closing the project and then opening the saved Jamstix arrangement from within Jamstix. I’m not sure if I am missing something here, or if this is intentional. If intentional I don’t understand the rational.

    However, I much prefer the way Podium handles multiple outs compared to TRacktions approach of having to wrap it in a rack.

    One more thing, is there a count-in option for recording?

    #5862
    Max
    Participant

    1. Hit “power” button (shift+space) right after loading your project. This will load all your instruments in memory.

    2. You must create new preset for Jamstix before saving your project. Press “new” button in the presets window (in the left part of track inspector) to do that. After preset creating your Jamstix arrangement will be loading with Podium project.

    #5863
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Max wrote:

    1. Hit “power” button (shift+space) right after loading your project. This will load all your instruments in memory.

    2. You must create new preset for Jamstix before saving your project. Press “new” button in the presets window (in the left part of track inspector) to do that. After preset creating your Jamstix arrangement will be loading with Podium project.

    Cool I will give both a try.

    #5864
    Max
    Participant

    Count in options for metronome is on the list.
    Don’t forget to visit this post: http://www.zynewave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12

    😉

    #5867
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Thanks for the help Max.

    With Podium, Jamstix is in the project but doesn’t load until you hit the play button. You then have a bit of a delay while it loads the samples before it goes.

    As Max said, monitoring must be activated with the power button to load the plugins. If not already activated, then pressing play will activate monitoring, causing the delay. The power button acts like a kind of arrangement load command. A project can contain a large number of arrangements and it would not be practical if they all had their plugins loaded when the project is loaded. Only one arrangement can be active at a time.

    #5868
    darcyb62
    Participant

    This worked great great. Thanks for the feedback. I was incorrect when I said Tracktion loaded VSTs when opening a project, it’s when you open an arrangement. Is there a reason why POdium does not automatically load plugins when the arrangement is opened? I have no issue with using the power button, I’m just curious if there is a reason.

    Otherwise I’m liking this more and more. Very different approach from Tracktion but after awhile it starts making sense.

    #5869
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Is there a reason why POdium does not automatically load plugins when the arrangement is opened?

    If you open extra browser windows, you can actually have more than one arrangement open simultaneously. Useful if you want to copy stuff from one to the other.

    #5870
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Is there a reason why POdium does not automatically load plugins when the arrangement is opened?

    If you open extra browser windows, you can actually have more than one arrangement open simultaneously. Useful if you want to copy stuff from one to the other.

    Cool. I figured there had to be a logical reason. Opening multiple browser windows is something you just can’t do in Tracktion. Your approach makes perfect sense. You’ve really thought this out haven’t you?

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