Topic: Tracktion user taking a look see…

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  • #5732
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Max wrote:

    Hello darcyb62.
    I hope, you’ll like Podium, it’s very powerful sequencer.

    I need to say that I can’t recommend you to buy 0404. I have EMU 0404 soundcard on my system, and I think to sell it. Podium has really good driver information window, and it shows a lot of little ASIO dropouts and silent ASIO driver restarts (with ANY buffer size). It’s not a Podium fault, because I’ve tried to test my system with other soundcards (like M-Audio for example) and the other ASIO soundcards work with Pod without any problems. And every time I install new EMU drivers 0404 works better and better (less ASIO dropouts and restarts since I get 0404), but there’s still a lot of troubles. It’s not only ASIO. Sometimes I play music with foobar (WDM drivres), and suddenly sound becomes noisy and I hear huge dropouts. It’s not a big problem, because I only need to restart song to solve this, but…
    So, you can use DSP FX, but if you try to record parameters automation of it, you’ll hear a lot of dropouts (again!). I’ve tried to do that in Tracktion 1 (i’m an owner of NFR version), in enegyXT demo, FLS demo, but no luck for me. Dropouts, droputs, dropouts.

    Buy used creamware scope home, if you want DSP FX. Scope Home is not very powerful on DSPs (but there’s no less DSP power than EMU), but it works well.

    Thanks for the feedback Max… I’m not so interested in the on-board dsp effects but what I really need is a card with optical SPDIF in/out. Most cards that offer sp/dif in this price range only provide coax, which won’t do. For audio I am currently using a Tascam us122 while adequate it has an annoying cross talk problem (sound from the outputs bleeds back into the inputs which really takes away my ability to use a click track in quieter sections).

    So what am I looking for. A card that will provide me with optical spdif in/out, a minimum of 2 ins and 2 outs, ability to handle both mic and instrument, a good preamp (maybe), midi capability, low cost. Any ideas?

    Darcy

    #5736
    Max
    Participant

    @darcyb62 wrote:

    So what am I looking for. A card that will provide me with optical spdif in/out, a minimum of 2 ins and 2 outs, ability to handle both mic and instrument, a good preamp (maybe), midi capability, low cost. Any ideas?

    At the moment, no. The only idea is to buy 0404 and use only SPDif i/o’s of it, as some of my friend do. The second audiocard is for usual in/outs.
    (I believe that one day EMU finally solve the problem with drivers).

    I’ll ask my friends who work with audio hardware here, in Russia, and post answer here.

    #5739
    darcyb62
    Participant

    Okay… I’m liing this more and more… Once you understand the hierarchy approach the “steep learning curve” is behind you.

    I have a couple more questions…

    When setting up a new arrangement you have the option of setting up musical or linear. I understand so not a problem. When the arrangement has been created do I have the ability to switch from linear to musical and vice versa. With Tracktion I find myself jumping between the two (to be honest I’m not really sure but i do so this may not be all that big an issue).

    One thing that really caught me off the guitar was adding temp changes to the song. Easy enough to do, but it didn’t look like anything was happening. In Tracktion if I put a tempo change in you can actually see the difference in the bar/beat setup. With Podium nothing… I spent a bit of time with before I finally imported a drum loop, played it and saw what it was doing. When I added a tempo change the position bar actually went through the speeded up section faster. I can see Podium’s approach and I am kind of undecided on it. I can see benefits to but Tracktion’s approach just seems to be more logical but maybe not.

    And I’m also a bit concerned with stability. This may have something to do with this being a demo but it seems that depending on what I am doing at the time (or not doing) various components of Podium will fail or lockup. For example, it just locked up as I was typing this. I had Podium up and running and I have been checking things as I type this just to make sure I am celar on terminology. I went to open a new arrangement so I could be sure I had the musical and linear terms correct. I typed here for awhile and went back, had the demo reminder popup on the screen closed it and found I could do nothing with the new arrangement window. To get rid of it I had to close Podium. I have also had Podium up, left it, came back an hour later to find that it had closed due to an unexpected error of some sort. Again, I have heard nothing but good regarding the stability of the program so it might just something unique to the demo and my setup…

    Finally… I get this rather annoying silence every so often. If I can only fina a way of getting rid of that. 😉 😉

    Darcy

    #5744
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    When the arrangement has been created do I have the ability to switch from linear to musical and vice versa.

    Currently this is not changeable. In the distant future I may offer an option to convert between the two formats. This setting determines the internal resolution only. On the future plan is an option to switch between showing bar:beats and hh:mm:ss on the timeline ruler.

    I went to open a new arrangement so I could be sure I had the musical and linear terms correct. I typed here for awhile and went back, had the demo reminder popup on the screen closed it and found I could do nothing with the new arrangement window. To get rid of it I had to close Podium.

    I just tried this, and it does seem to lock up Podium when the demo reminder pops up while another dialog is open. I was able to get focus back to the new arrangement dialog by activating another application and then activate Podium again. I’ll get this fixed for the next demo version. Thanks.

    I’m more concerned with your other stability problems. I’m not aware of any crash issues with Podium, and it’s been a long time since users have reported any such issues. I need more information to be able to determine what causes the crashes. If you find a reproducible situation, please let me know so I can try to recreate the problem on my machine.

    I have also had Podium up, left it, came back an hour later to find that it had closed due to an unexpected error of some sort.

    Were your PC in power save/standby mode? I know that some ASIO drivers will crash upon reawakening from power save mode.

    Finally… I get this rather annoying silence every so often. If I can only fina a way of getting rid of that. 😉 😉

    That sounds like a serious bug. I’ll fix it for you for 90US$ 😉

    Frits

    #5745
    darcyb62
    Participant

    I am getting closer to flipping over that $90 but not quite there yet.

    I think that the crash is related to the pop up reminder but I can’t say for sure. It happened twice yesterday and I’m not exactly sure what might have caused it.

    I don’t have anything special set up on my machine (i.e. no powersave, it wasn’t sleeping, not even screensaver enabled), so I’ll fire it up and see if it happens again. I guess the other thing is that I’m trying this out on my general purpose computer (notebook) and not on the pc I have set up as a daw only machine.

    Cheers…

    #5746
    Conquistador
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Finally… I get this rather annoying silence every so often. If I can only fina a way of getting rid of that. 😉 😉

    That sounds like a serious bug. I’ll fix it for you for 90US$ 😉

    Frits

    That was funny. Very funny. 🙂

    #5752
    darcyb62
    Participant

    I think I’m getting this….

    Just to make sure I am here I wanted to simulat a rack I hav set up in tracktion. Basically what I want to is split an incoming signal (guitar) into a left and right stereo track. I keep the left signal relatively clean, maybe add a bit of eq or compression. On the right track I usually add a bit of delay, some crunch and again a bit of eq and compression. I then bring this out to a stereo track.

    What I did with Podium is set up my audio in. I then wrapped this up in a group. I do this so I can set volume of that track to 0 as I just want to use the effected sounds. I then drag a “bus 1 send” onto the “audio in” track.

    From there I drag the “bus 1 return” twice. I pan 1 fully to the left and 1 fully to the right. On the left I drag a compression vst, wrap it in a group then add eq. On the right, I do do much the same adding delay, compression, eq, ampsim.

    That’s it… It does what I want it to. Is there a better way or is this it?

    #5753
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    What I did with Podium is set up my audio in. I then wrapped this up in a group. I do this so I can set volume of that track to 0 as I just want to use the effected sounds. I then drag a “bus 1 send” onto the “audio in” track.

    If I understand your setup correctly, I don’t think you need to create the extra group. Setting the gain to off on the same track with your audio in and send mapping should do the same.

    From there I drag the “bus 1 return” twice. I pan 1 fully to the left and 1 fully to the right. On the left I drag a compression vst, wrap it in a group then add eq. On the right, I do do much the same adding delay, compression, eq, ampsim.

    From this I gather that you’re panning the signal before it is sent to the effects. Depending on whether your effects are stereo or mono, you may be able to simplify it by changing the bus send/return mappings to mono (I assume your guitar input is mono), and then do the panning on the effects output. But your current solution is neat.

    #5755
    darcyb62
    Participant

    Another question…

    I am trying to use Jamstix witin Podium. Jamstix is drum synth but I can’t seem to be able to pull up the drum editor on the Jamstix track. I do get the piano roll but that’s not what I want. I’ve clcked as much as I can and I can’t seem to find a setting that will switch the piano roll editor to the drum editor. What am I doing wrong?

    #5756
    Zynewave
    Keymaster

    Enter the properties dialog for the preset you have assigned to the Jamstix track, and select the ‘use preset as a drum kit’ option. When pressing ok to the properties dialog, you are given the choice to create a default GM compatible map. If JamStix use a special drum-layout, you’ll have to manually modify the individual drum presets within the kit preset. If you are using Jamstix as a multiple out plugin and want the MIDI on a separate track, you’ll need to create a template drum kit preset. For hints, see how the drumatic ‘Kit Template’ preset is used in the freebees project.

    #5757
    suges
    Participant

    That sounds like a serious bug. I’ll fix it for you for 90US$ 😉

    Frits

    Joke OF THE YEAR! Bwaaaaahahahahhahaha

    #5758
    darcyb62
    Participant

    @Zynewave wrote:

    Enter the properties dialog for the preset you have assigned to the Jamstix track, and select the ‘use preset as a drum kit’ option. When pressing ok to the properties dialog, you are given the choice to create a default GM compatible map. If JamStix use a special drum-layout, you’ll have to manually modify the individual drum presets within the kit preset. If you are using Jamstix as a multiple out plugin and want the MIDI on a separate track, you’ll need to create a template drum kit preset. For hints, see how the drumatic ‘Kit Template’ preset is used in the freebees project.

    Bingo… Jamstix doesn’t realyy use presets as such but when import Jamstix it sets up 16 presets. They aren’t used but I can select one and then set the drum editor switch on and it works fine.

    Nice program once you get used to it. Now I just gotta see if like it better than Tracktion enough to pay you to fix that occasional “but not random” silence bug. 😉

    Cheers!

    #5776
    duncanparsons
    Participant

    @darcyb62 wrote:

    Once you understand the hierarchy approach the “steep learning curve” is behind you.

    You can, of course, digitise the steep learning curve, and alter it to a more natural curve with Podium 🙂

    DSP

    #5779
    super_crunchy
    Participant

    @darcyb62 wrote:

    Nice program once you get used to it. Now I just gotta see if like it better than Tracktion enough to pay you to fix that occasional “but not random” silence bug. 😉

    I think you should buy yourself a christmas present 😉 🙂

    #5783
    Max
    Participant

    Hey darcyb62!

    Regarding your post about audiocard I need to say that I’ve asked my friends who sell audio hardware here, in Russia, and they say that there’s no other audiocard with optical SPDIF on market in this price range exept 0404. 🙁

    edit:
    super_crunchy

    I think you should buy yourself a christmas present

    That’s right! 😉

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