Zynewave.
pavouk100Finally I tried new compact mode. I like it very much, looks very nice and is very usable during workflow. But there’s one thing annoying me: the sliders (pan/volume faders) are currently ‘pre-effect’, aren’t they? It would make more sense to me to make them ‘post-effect’. E.g. if you put compressor or some kind of overdrive/saturation effect on the track, the volume slider no longer works as volume fader for the track, but rather as gain dial (in traditional DAW/HW mix sense), which is completely different thing. I believe that having effects ‘pre-fader’ would make more sense.
ZynewaveWith some configuration of the tracks you can make the new sliders work post-effect:
Disable the gain/pan controls on the lane track and enable the gain/pan controls on the topmost track in the effect chain. In the group panel the gain/pan controls should then appear at the top of the chain. The track sliders will control the first enabled gain/pan controls found upwards in the track chain.
Later on I may add a track menu command that can switch between pre/post faders without having to enter the track properties dialog.
Note that currently the track meters always display the output of the lane track, i.e. before being processed by the effect chain.
Conquistador@Zynewave wrote:
Later on I may add a track menu command that can switch between pre/post faders without having to enter the track properties dialog.
Good idea. That would be much easier.
pavouk100@Conquistador wrote:
@Zynewave wrote:
Later on I may add a track menu command that can switch between pre/post faders without having to enter the track properties dialog.
Good idea. That would be much easier.
Yes, absolutely. In an ideal case this option could also control whether track meters display the raw lane track (faders are pre-effect) or effected track (faders are post-effect).
However, all this is just nice-to-have, not critical in any case.
Thanks
pavouk100Ok, I played with this a bit more, realized that:
1. I can always add an empty effect track (containing no effect, but having enabled gain/pan dials on it) as the last one in the track. This solves hassle of enabling/disabling track dials on last effect track when adding/removing effects on the track.
2. It would be nice if track’s new pan/gain sliders control the last enabled gain/pan controls found upwards in the track chain. That way, it would be possible to have gain/pan enabled on both the lane track for controlling initial pre-effect gain and also having gain/pan enabled on the last effect track (and track faders would control this pair of gain/pan). Again, in this case it would be also logical for track display meters to show output of track which is controlled by track’s faders…
3. And there is also mixer view… I think that mixer view should follow more closely the setup of tracks/effects/faders in track view. Currently, when I setup track’s faders to control last effect track, the fader in mixer still controls output of raw lane track. I guess that mixer would be much more useful if it more closely follows settings made in track view. YMMV.
Finally, I must say that more I work in compact mode, the more I like it. It is really a huge step forward in usability. Thank you!
rinxai@pavouk100 wrote:
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Finally, I must say that more I work in compact mode, the more I like it. It is really a huge step forward in usability. Thank you!
True for me too. I now prefer compact mode and find no need for creating new projects in expanded mode. I was at first concerned about loosing the marvelous flexibility of the expanded mode, however usability is actually vastly improved in compact mode, IMO.
A good job and the right thing to have done in terms of development priorities. Thanks Frits.
Just missing that extra bit of color on the track headers, gotta have that back!