Topic: Waves Plug-ins

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  • #2954
    jpleong
    Participant

    I’ve been unsuccessful getting my Waves trial to work in Podium.

    It tells me waveshell-vst9.2.dll has performed an illegal action, added to the quarantine list, etc…

    Anyone have any luck getting Podium to work with Waves in 32-bit mode? I’m going to try 64-bit and see if that works…

    JP

    #23219
    jpleong
    Participant

    Okay… so 64-bit works for the Waves plugins. Unfortunately… Kitcore does not… Any thoughts on 32-bit?

    Love love love Podium but don’t love the lack of quality free/cheap plug-ins. I was hoping Waves would enable me to stay…

    JP

    #23220
    Slomo
    Participant

    Waves’s waveshell has always been a bit problematic.

    You could try this; http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?s=60a6fa6f640f73cbc2543bee4c9b2398&p=839203&postcount=61

    #23221
    The Telenator
    Participant

    Sorry the Waves plugins are causing you trouble. I’m aware that this problem has come up on other DAW forums, including the Reaper forum Slomo has linked.

    One suggestion I’ll offer concerning Podium is to try scanning each one in one at a time. First, you want to clear out the text referring to any of these if any have ended up in Quarantine. It’s merely a text file in AppData Roaming Zynewave on PC. Then attempt to import each one at a time if you can.

    Your other comment — ‘the lack of quality free/cheap plug-ins’ — got my curiosity up. Which free/cheap plugins were you referring to and what lack? If anything, most of us have the exact opposite problem. Including my instruments folder, it’s a struggle these days to keep the number of plugins I have and use regularly to under 200. This number represents at least 75% free, very high-quality plugins. I only began purchasing reasonably priced commercial plugins a little under two years ago. The biggest problem for some of us currently that there are many new and free or very cheap plugins being released almost every day!

    You can search the Net, but the best places I suggest starting in building up a most excellent collection is the thread or two with longer lists on the Zynewave forums, a few other threads here that focus on one particular synth or one maker’s line of plugins. Then, I’d suggest bpb (the bedroomproducersblog) for further helpful lists by type of plugin, and then the huge cataloging of plugins at KVR.

    Personally, I prefer to choose my own plugins myself and usually don’t care much for the assortment provided by some DAW makers. The exception would be the many generic, GUI-less collection that comes with Reaper (the other Daw I use) and Ableton’s (a DAW I no longer use).

    In any case, there’s thousands of them out there now, and there’s hundreds that are excellent from free to pricey. Finding and building up awesome plugin folders is part of the fun of recording on our own!

    #23222
    jpleong
    Participant

    Hey Telenator and Slomo, thanks for the replies!

    I’ve been around for a while (Podium user since 1.7x) and I had amassed a large collection of free plug-ins on my WinXP machine. I also use Adobe Audition with iZotope plugins for my professional work, and, for years, used hardware-powered TC effects. While I’m aware of the huge library of great, hi-quality instruments I’m not really a VSTi user, outside of Kitcore, and so I’m focused on having a solid staple of bread-and-butter effects.

    The free stuff I’ve tried to populate don’t really seem to cut it and/or haven’t been updated since I first licensed Podium. Even my go-tos from a few years ago (Kjaerhaus, GVST, Bluecat) don’t really do what I want them to do.

    I have no desire to leave Podium, as I just love the way multitracking/mixing works in it, but I need to be able to get tracks to sound the way I want them to sound. 😕

    I’m going to try JBridge and see if I can bump 32-bit Kitcore up to work with 64-bit Podium. Failing that, I’ll try Slomo’s link’s suggestion.

    JP

    #23223
    jpleong
    Participant

    Slightly convoluted procedure to get what I wanted but I got it to work…

    1. Create a copy of .pod file and rename for 64-bit
    2. delete all 32-bit plugins except Kitcore (including Zynewave plugins).
    3. Open Podium 64-bit as Administrator
    4. Import Plugins from Folder -> Waveshell
    5. Quit Podium
    6. Install JBridge 1.5
    7. Open Podium 64-bit as Administrator

    I tried keeping my other 32-bit plugins but one or all of the rest were causing Podium 64-bit to crash when I opened an arrangement that used them. This happened even without importing the Waves plugins. If I have more time, I’ll do some trial and error and see if I can find the offending plugin(s).

    JP

    #23224
    The Telenator
    Participant

    Wow, I remember Kjaerhus well, but I don’t think too many people use them anymore. GVST is still around — just issued a couple of new betas, one a looper that is rather cute. I still use their GRev reversed delay from time to time and their GMulti is possibly the best freeware if not one of the only multi-band compressors out there even though I don’t use it.

    Anyway, I wasn’t really referring to these sort of ‘starter’ bundles when I posted. There are much newer plugins to be had. Breebardt of ToneBoosters recently made all of his JB series into freeware, which are about as good as his newer series. Variety of Sound has released some really fine new ones and also gone back and improved a few of the older ones. It’s hard to know even where to begin, really, as there have been so many in the last couple of years that rival anything commercial. Meanwhile, as you might have seen in the constant $50 sale going on for the last few months at Waves, the price of both FX and instrument plugins has crashed throughout the entire market.

    I wasn’t so much focused on synths or instruments when I was commenting earlier, but most of the top brands are on regular markdown or recurring sales, too. I can’t get over some of this — I never expected to see a company such as Waves slash its prices, but for certain they are not the only ones. It’s just a great time to be making music … and hunting plugins as well.

    Well, cheers and best wishes! I had thought you were new to Podium, based on your original comments. I’m essentially a Cubase refugee and settled down with Reaper and Podium after shopping around quite a lot. I ought to also mention I have an x64 PC, but I keep all my audio software in 32-bit. I don’t have any vast memory needs, don’t like plugs that drag a gig of stuff around with them, and a long time ago I discovered my whole setup worked best for me when I stayed away from 64-bit DAWs and plugins. More choice at 32 in the first place. They harped on and on about 64 being the future 10 years ago but so many have been slow to get there with stable product. I guess I’ll have to look into the notion of converting in another 10 years, aye?

    #23228
    jpleong
    Participant

    Well, I’ve got to say that since your reply I’ve looked into your new (to me) suggestions and revisited some of the older plugs I had and promptly forgot about my Waves trial…

    It’s been a lot of fun for the past few days…

    JP

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